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纯氢气引擎除碳保养

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 楼主| 发表于 14-8-2015 04:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
彭淑芳 发表于 14-8-2015 03:47 PM
我家乡那天开了一间这样的店面,不到两个月就倒闭了。
我还没来得及去试就没有了。
不过价钱也是许多 ...

一家店面开了又关了,其实有很多因素。
租借细节因素
业务管理因素
当地业绩因素
等等。。。

但通常人都以负面主观的“倒闭”来诠释在某处停止营业的商家。

谢谢您的关注,PM您价钱了,希望有这个荣幸为您服务。
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 楼主| 发表于 14-8-2015 09:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
这里有一个美国纯氢除碳保养系统,原理是一样的。

1 - Carbon Cleaning machine
Using our unique hydrogen-powered decarbonizing machine, a technician at our Carbon Cleaning center will remove nearly all carbon build-up. in just 30 minutes, your engine will run like new.

The Carbon Cleaning machine has a remarkable cleaning capacity. With this advanced technology, developed over several years, hydrogen is pulsed through the air intake pipes, burning off up to 75% of the carbon deposits that prevent your engine from running smoothly.

2 - How does it work?

The Carbon Cleaning decarbonization station is easy to use, fast, efficient, and completely autonomous.

The station automatically manages the pulsed hydrogen flow.

The heating effect of hydrogen makes it possible to raise the combustion temperature to trigger a pyrolysis, essentially a chemical reaction that serves to remove, burn off, disintegrate, and eliminate carbon deposits. To install, simply insert the hose of the Carbon Cleaning station into the air intake duct and then connect the clamps on to the positive and negative terminals of the vehicle’s battery. By activating the timer, you have the ability to choose the duration of the cleaning, which varies according to the contamination level of the vehicle. While the machine is operating, please allow the vehicle to idle.

3 - The Hydrogen

Although it is abundant in the universe, hydrogen is a gas usually found combined with other atoms, most commonly as an element in water, oil, and natural gas. Hydrogen is considered as an energy vector, used mainly in chemicals, refining, or industry. But in these days of environmental concern, hydrogen is seen as a having a lot of potential to play a major role in the future energy landscape. Hydrogen has a very high energy density, i.e., it harbors a lot of energy in a small mass.

4 - The benefits of hydrogen in the combustion process

Hydrogen is characterized by a high reactivity and a combustion rate as much as five times greater than that of fuel. Moreover, hydrogen has a wider flammability range than other types of fuel. Due to these characteristics, the addition of even a small amount of hydrogen in the fuel-air mixture increases the combustion rate thus making the combustion more stable by reducing the duration of combustion and reducing cycle-to-cycle variations.

Many quantitative and experimental studies done on the impact of adding hydrogen in internal combustion engines (based on gas or diesel) have come to the common conclusion that the measure:
- reduces the duration of the combustion process
- increases thermal efficiency
- burns off, disintegrates, and removes carbon deposits

And finally, for best results, we recommend you go for a 25 to 30-minute drive in low gear (above 3000 r/min) after the Carbon Cleaning session in order to remove the last remaining residue from the exhaust.

As a preventative measure, decarb your vehicle every 10,000 MILES or once a year.
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发表于 14-8-2015 09:59 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
GriffinK 发表于 13-8-2015 08:48 PM
谢谢关注,PM 了。

Harrier 08 多少?
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 楼主| 发表于 15-8-2015 12:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 GriffinK 于 15-8-2015 12:43 PM 编辑

谢谢关注,PM您了。
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发表于 15-8-2015 10:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
GriffinK 发表于 14-8-2015 09:05 PM
这里有一个美国纯氢除碳保养系统,原理是一样的。

1 - Carbon Cleaning machine

引用楼主在2楼的解释:


“When pure hydrogen (H2) is introduced into engines, both petrol or diesel, the temperature within the engine causes the hydrogen molecules (h2) to break down into hydrogen protons (2h+). ”


这里讲的是positive (正+)hydrogen ion


引用38楼的解释:


“网络上真的是什么答案都有,负氢离子的解释可以在这里找到。”


这里突然变去negative(负-) hydrogen ion


再引42楼的解释:


”The heating effect of hydrogen makes it possible to raise the combustion temperature to trigger a pyrolysis, essentially a chemical reaction that serves to remove, burn off, disintegrate, and eliminate carbon deposits. “



这里只提到Pyrolysis,没有提到什么“氢离子”hydrogen ion的东西。



一下子正离子,一下子负离子,一下子Pyrolysis,我有理由怀疑楼主对这个产品的认知不够。

我不会质疑这个产品的功效,用过的人自己知道。但我对它背后的原理的解释很不满意

另一个问题:氢离子如何产生?单单靠燃烧氢气产生的能量就足以导致氢气分解成氢离子?Google一下Hydrogen ionization energy 和hydrogen heat of combustion自有分晓。

还有广告贴,好像放错地方了吧。

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发表于 16-8-2015 12:54 AM | 显示全部楼层
请Pm价钱,谢谢
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 楼主| 发表于 16-8-2015 01:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
gilaball 发表于 15-8-2015 10:20 PM
引用楼主在2楼的解释:


老实说,小弟只是略懂其中原理,熟悉机器的操作和整个保养工序。再深入的知识还真需要多多进修,感谢您无私的详细解释,小弟受益良多。
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 楼主| 发表于 16-8-2015 01:42 PM | 显示全部楼层

谢谢关注,PM您了。
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发表于 16-8-2015 05:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
楼主pm详情
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 楼主| 发表于 16-8-2015 05:42 PM | 显示全部楼层

谢谢关注,PM您了K


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发表于 16-8-2015 06:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
靠近我公司,pm详情,谢谢
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 楼主| 发表于 16-8-2015 07:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
vteck 发表于 16-8-2015 06:45 PM
靠近我公司,pm详情,谢谢

谢谢您的关注,已经PM您了

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发表于 18-8-2015 12:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
请问这样子弄,要多少钱?
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发表于 18-8-2015 12:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
gilaball 发表于 15-8-2015 10:20 PM
引用楼主在2楼的解释:


听起来像用强酸或强碱解离水成氢和氧再导入引擎中和汽油一起燃烧
和gas桶原理一样用两种气体混合燃烧
问题是这样温度有可能高达3000度C
引擎受的了吗?
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发表于 18-8-2015 01:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
楼主pm详情
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发表于 18-8-2015 04:02 PM | 显示全部楼层
请问什么价钱?
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 楼主| 发表于 19-8-2015 12:22 AM | 显示全部楼层

谢谢关注,PM您了
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 楼主| 发表于 20-8-2015 03:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 20-8-2015 04:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
所謂的碳是不是overhaul的時候看到那些黑黑的? 舊車做了這個除碳保養後engine拆出來保證沒有黑? 好像剛overhual過?
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 楼主| 发表于 20-8-2015 05:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
bum 发表于 20-8-2015 04:54 PM
所謂的碳是不是overhaul的時候看到那些黑黑的? 舊車做了這個除碳保養後engine拆出來保證沒有黑? 好像剛over ...

谢谢您的咨询
是的,燃烧室内黑黑的就是积碳。

OVERHAUL通常是引擎的内部耗损,比如润滑油消耗太快,内部冷却剂/润滑油水溢漏,必须更换内部零件才会采取的解决方案。
在更换零件前和组装引擎前,进行全面引擎清洁工作很重要,但OVERHAUL的主要目的是更换零件,清洁只是其中必须做的工作。
除非是专业赛车,普通车主为了除碳而频繁的拆开引擎,似乎太烧钱了。

纯氢除碳在不拆开引擎的情况下,以短时间和经济为前提,运用在不同的新旧的车子发挥不同程度的效果。但是绝对无法做到OVERHAUL的清洁程度。


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