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发表于 29-3-2011 10:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复  玩具熊

比较希望你来替我看门 ( 你不是在新加坡当保安)
有link 为证
skyguard 发表于 29-3-2011 09:28 PM



    哈哈~傻瓜。。。看见烧香的就以为是和尚。。。。

或许,他在南方小国表面当劳工,其实是在南方小国收集情报的马国特工。。。。

也许,在南方小国打工的女佣都是印尼,菲律宾,泰国等派过去南方小国长期收料的女特工。。。。。
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 19# GagahSetia0.2


    Colt previously held a U.S. trademark on the term "M4".[18] Many manufacturers have production firearms that are essentially identical to a military M4. Civilian models are sometimes colloquially referred to as "M4gery"

source : wikipedia

民用版和军用版基本一样,除了selector switch 没有 Full auto (全自动),只是trigger mechanism 部分很小的差别。美国很多玩枪的都会自己改装。
pls 以后做一些功课才来回复。OK
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
哈哈~傻瓜。。。看见烧香的就以为是和尚。。。。

或许,他在南方小国表面当劳工,其实是在南方 ...
GagahSetia0.2 发表于 29-3-2011 10:09 PM


或许,也许,有可能, 我表面是地球人,其实是超级赛亚人,隐藏龟波气功

PLS 不要好像小孩子,要和我嘴炮,也提高一下程度,OK
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复  GagahSetia0.2


    Colt previously held a U.S.  on the term "M4". Many manufacturers have ...
skyguard 发表于 29-3-2011 10:14 PM



重点不在这,问题在价钱一样吗??你看见的是民用版的大众标价,军用版的价钱难道和民用版的一样??

要不要请我们的民联计算机来帮你计算一家价钱,顺便比较看民用版和军用版的区别有多大?????
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
威力多大的枪械,若给个鸟人在操作也是废铁一块,最好的例子:泰国农夫用山寨猎枪分分钟都准过南 ...
GagahSetia0.2 发表于 29-3-2011 10:04 PM


也对。威力强大的高科技武器,雷达,导弹,让马国哪些教育程度 只有SPM 的 马来兵来操作确实想废铁一块。。
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
或许,也许,有可能, 我表面是地球人,其实是超级赛亚人,隐藏龟波气功

PLS 不要好像小孩子,要和我 ...
skyguard 发表于 29-3-2011 10:22 PM



哈哈,自打嘴巴!或许你真的是个长不大的孩子,要不要叔叔买七龙珠公仔送给你啊?
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
也对。威力强大的高科技武器,雷达,导弹,让马国哪些教育程度 只有SPM 的 马来兵来操作确实想废铁一块 ...
skyguard 发表于 29-3-2011 10:27 PM



    一个连英语都不会说,估计中学毕业的泰国农夫都能把两个受高等教育,甚至是大学 3G Commandos 射伤。。。。可见南方小国四眼少爷部队的确很“强”。。。。
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
重点不在这,问题在价钱一样吗??你看见的是民用版的大众标价,军用版的价钱难道和民用版的一样?? ...
GagahSetia0.2 发表于 29-3-2011 10:24 PM


人家只是分销商,中间还要赚一手。价钱才usd1150, 马国是直接向COLT购买,还是大宗数量,价签理应更便宜,对吗?

军用,民用差别不大, 生产工序,和材料都差不多, 成本价应该差别也不多,对吗?

马国购买的价钱和市价也差太多了吧,几乎是买一支,赚一支
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
人家只是分销商,中间还要赚一手。价钱才usd1150, 马国是直接向COLT购买,还是大宗数量,价签理应更便 ...
skyguard 发表于 29-3-2011 10:34 PM



    成本查多少我不知道,但我肯定的是,你根本不知道军用版的 M4 合理售价多少?
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 skyguard 于 29-3-2011 10:42 PM 编辑

回复 27# GagahSetia0.2

十多名马国特种部队还不是在训练时,在海边淹死。。那些渔家的小朋友也不致如此吧。。。。

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发表于 29-3-2011 10:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 29# GagahSetia0.2

你没见过猪跑,也吃过猪肉吧。。。难道连一点逻辑性思考也不会。。。。
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
人家只是分销商,中间还要赚一手。价钱才usd1150, 马国是直接向COLT购买,还是大宗数量,价签理应更便 ...
skyguard 发表于 29-3-2011 10:34 PM



    新加坡的SAR步枪卖了几把?不也是买下人不要的知识产权回来改良
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发表于 29-3-2011 10:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
[quote]回复  GagahSetia0.2
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发表于 29-3-2011 11:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
是不是,就知道他们只会出这几招,M4 的课题说不过人,就转移话题去Commando ,还是快闪,不然等下,他们又要交版主出来咯。。
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发表于 29-3-2011 11:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
是不是,就知道他们只会出这几招,M4 的课题说不过人,就转移话题去Commando ,还是快闪,不然等下,他们又 ...
skyguard 发表于 29-3-2011 11:04 PM

那来谈谈SAR-21的事情啊 PORT KING 事件也可以
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发表于 29-3-2011 11:08 PM | 显示全部楼层
人家只是分销商,中间还要赚一手。价钱才usd1150, 马国是直接向COLT购买,还是大宗数量,价签理应更便 ...
skyguard 发表于 29-3-2011 10:34 PM


谁告诉你M4民用和军用没有分别?单是复进弹横,枪管和火冒都不一样。再说民用只能点射,没有3点发射和连射,难道没有差别么?
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发表于 29-3-2011 11:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
是不是,版主 说到就到,M4 的等下在和你谈, 楼上的马国网友M4 的课题说不过人,就转移话题 ,扯到新加坡commando,你是不是该一视同仁,处理一下 扣500分
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发表于 29-3-2011 11:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
还有那个提 port king 的,等下新加坡网友回复他们,你又扣分封帖
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发表于 29-3-2011 11:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kcchiew 于 29-3-2011 11:51 PM 编辑

不久前还在讨论奥地利把Steyr枪械技术转移到大马一事,这么快又换另一家生产公司了。

这技术转移还蛮快过期的。










(补充:咦?原来Steyr的技术转移似乎不成功,网络上还有Steyr告负责公司的新闻? 有人知道结果如何吗?)
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发表于 30-3-2011 12:01 AM | 显示全部楼层
除了被告之外,还差点把库存的货卖给非洲小国。。。。。


http://www.mmail.com.my/content/21441-arms-deal-shot-down


Malaysia escapes UN censure after officials stop weapons sale to Burundi


MARHALIM ABAS


Thursday, December 10th, 2009 10:42:00




KUALA LUMPUR: An attempt by a local company to export some 30,000 assault rifles to Burundi, worth more than RM200 million, nearly caused Malaysia to be censured by the United Nations Security Council, if not for the prompt action by Malaysian officials at the UN body.


The Malay Mail learnt that officials from the Permanent Mission of Malaysia to the UN in New York had managed to assure the world body that the Malaysian government had not sanctioned the deal and the local company would not be allowed to proceed with the transaction.


The Paper That Cares also learnt at the recent Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace 2009 that officials of the Malaysian company all retired armed forces personnel had met senior government officials in Kuala Lumpur and Putrajaya recently, together with a Burundian delegation, to lobby for the deal.


The Burundians were said to be members of the country's military. The local company representatives and the Burundi delegation also met with several defence companies to get officials from the latter companies to lobby with the Malaysian government on their behalf.


It was learnt that the Burundians were prepared to pay top dollar for the Steyr AUGA1 assault rifles, previously used as the standard assault rifle of the Malaysian army.


However, their attempts were rebuffed as the army had no plans to sell the Steyrs despite most of the weapons already in storage.


Once word got out that the UN wanted the deal cancelled, government officers promptly stopped contact with the company's officials.


A defence ministry official confirmed that the local company had been officially informed that it should no longer be involved with the Burundians.


It is believed foreign intelligence agencies that had been monitoring the situation in Burundi, a Central African nation, had tipped off the world body on the possible arms sale.

Since 2000, the UN has set up several organisations in Africa to prevent the stockpiling and illicit trafficking of small arms and light weapons to reduce conflict among nations and ruinous civil wars.

As a member of the UN, Malaysia has agreed to abide by the Security Council resolutions on the export of arms, especially to nations and regions in conflict or just emerging from one.

Burundi is one of the world's poorest nations, having just emerged from a 12-year, ethnicbased civil war. Since independence in 1961, it has been plagued by tension between the dominant Tutsi minority and the Hutu majority.
It was feared that the rifles, should they reach Burundi, could land in the hands of various militias in the country.
Another fear is that they could be smuggled to neighbouring Rwanda and Democratic Republic of Congo
that are also emerging from their own ethnic civil wars.


The Steyr AUG was developed by Austria-based Steyr- Mannlicher AG. The Malaysian army adopted the weapon as its standard assault rifle in 1987 following an agreement with Steyr-Mannlicher for the local manufacture. In 2006, the army decided to retire the AUG and selected the Colt M4 Carbine as its standard assault rifle.


However, as only 14,000 M4 had been procured so far, the Steyr is still being used as by certain Army units, the Royal Malaysian Air Force and the Royal Malaysian Navy.
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