纳吉：以数据辩论1MDB课题 反对党肯定输！

引用 q(o_o)p 7-12-2015 10:29 AM

反對黨是出了名只談信心不談數字的

引用 sp13501 7-12-2015 10:30 AM

“其实，有很多原因，是我们必须对未来感到乐观和欣慰的。在巫统的带领下，我们可以看到国家越来越进步了。”


有了 GST，就是证明！  落后的国家，大多数没有 GST，进步的国家才有！

引用 prince 7-12-2015 10:36 AM

证据烧光，证人杀光，有东西出来好练了！

引用 gundamwing 7-12-2015 10:37 AM

不知道之前是誰缺席辯論會

引用 kent05 7-12-2015 10:49 AM

只有期待WSJ爆更多1MDB的丑闻了。

引用 HorikawaKT 7-12-2015 10:52 AM

请吉哥把数据公布 不要自爽自辩

引用 Botty 7-12-2015 11:13 AM

纳吉也强调说，如果大家以事实和数据辩论，反对党肯定会输的。

“如果以数据辩论，他们输。如果以逻辑辩论，他们也会输。他们用什么来辩论呢？他们不是用数据，他们是用谎言说话。”

阿吉大帝早已炼成“乾坤大挪移”大法，能把黑的说成白的，假的变成真的，别人的变成自己的，自己的变成别人的。

奈何对手不谙九阳神功，何以应对？

引用 syncsw 7-12-2015 11:15 AM

鸡鸡酱牙擦擦，人民大感欣慰。国人要求鸡鸡先公开以下10问题的答案打脸反对党，暴露反对党滴真面目。

1. Why did Bank Negara withdraw its approval for 1MDB to transfer more than US$1.8 billion overseas? Was it because most of the funds were transferred to an account which is unrelated to the 1MDB joint venture project with PetroSaudi International Ltd as revealed in the leaked board meeting minutes which Arul Kanda has acknowledged to be true? How much was transferred to this unrelated account? Did this unrelated account belong to Good Star Ltd, and who owns or controls Good Star Ltd?


2. Is it true that 1MDB had invested the initial US$1 billion cash to acquire 40% of 1MDB-PetroSaudi while PetroSaudi only needed to invest its rights to certain oil reserves in the Caspian Sea and in Argentina for its 60% stake? In addition, were the rights to the Caspian Sea oil reserves terminated by PetroSaudi within 2 months after the signing of the joint venture agreement, which meant that PetroSaudi secured its 60% stake without investing anything significant?


3. Is it true that 1MDB had proceeded to sign the joint venture agreement with PetroSaudi in a rush, without securing the necessary board of directors approval at that point of time as revealed in the same board minutes?


4. 1MDB financial statements dated March 31, 2013 and 2014 stated that US$1.4 billion was held as a deposit by International Petroleum Investment Corporation (IPIC) as a condition for IPIC to guarantee 1MDB’s US$3.5 billion bond issue. However, IPIC financial statements dated December 2013 and 2014 audited by Ernst & Young did not disclose any such condition for the provision of the guarantee. The balance sheet of IPIC also did not reflect any such refundable deposit received or held. Why hasn’t 1MDB sought IPIC to clarify where the money has gone?


5. Did 1MDB pay US$993 million from the US$1.22 billion it partially redeemed from the Cayman Islands investment fund AND another US$975 million borrowed from the Deutsche Bank-led consortium to terminate options 1MDB granted to Aabar Investments as part of another condition by IPIC to guarantee 1MDB’s US$3.5 billion bond issue? What exactly is the total sum paid and payable to Aabar or IPIC? Why is it that IPIC disclosed in its December 2014 financial statements that 1MDB still owes IPIC a sum of US$481 million for the said termination? In addition, if the US$993 million from the US$1.22 billion redeemed from Cayman Islands was not paid to Aabar or IPIC, where did the money go?


6. It has been disclosed in 1MDB’s financial statements, parliamentary replies and media releases that 1MDB Global Investment Limited borrowed US$3 billion in March 2013 for the purposes in investing in a 50:50 joint venture with Aabar Investments Limited where the joint venture will invest in the development of Tun Razak Exchange. The question is, how come more than US$1.5 billion of the borrowings have been utilised for purposes other than specified as disclosed in the March 2014 audited accounts, particularly since the joint venture has yet to be activated to date?


7. Arul Kanda had earlier informed Malaysians and 1MDB directors, according to leaked minutes, that the balance of the Cayman Islands investment amounting to US$1.108 billion was fully redeemed and held in cash in BSI Bank Singapore.  However, the 1MDB president has since admitted that the redeemed amount was not cash but "fund units" worth US$940 million. Why are these "fund units" which were redeemed from the Cayman Island fund still in the form of "fund units" and not in cash or raw assets like property and shares?  If they were in "fund units", doesn’t it mean that the Caymans fund was never redeemed in the first place?


8. Arul Kanda announced the "debt for asset-swap" deal with IPIC where the latter assumes some RM16 billion of 1MDB’s debts in exchange for 1MDB’s assets. IPIC has already advanced more than US$1 billion in the deal. Where is 1MDB going to produce these RM16 billion worth of assets to transfer to IPIC by 30 June 2016? The Finance Ministry has also indemnified IPIC in the "debt of asset-swap" arrangement. Does it mean that if 1MDB fails to produce the necessary RM16 billion worth of assets by June 30, 2016, the Finance Ministry will have to compensate IPIC accordingly?


9. Arul Kanda had declared that the disposal of 1MDB's subsidiary, Edra Energy, will allow it to remove RM16 billion so RM18 billion of 1MDB’s debt. However, the total debts associated to 1MDB’s energy arm amounts to approximately RM36 billion, comprising US$3.5 billion of bonds, RM5.7 billion of direct loans and more than RM8 billion of inherited loans.  Hence reducing up to RM18 billion of debt via the disposal of Edra Energy will still leave 1MDB with more that RM18 billion of outstanding debt associated with its energy acquisitions.  Therefore how will the sale of Edra solve 1MDB’s cash flow problem since there’ll be no assets left to pay the balance of the RM18 billion debt?


10. Did the federal government issue a "letter of support" in May 2015 to Bank Exim to borrow US$150 million where the funds was utilised by 1MDB to pay for its land acquisition from Tadmax Resources Bhd for approximately RM300 million? If so, what was the balance of the proceeds from the borrowing used for?

引用 syncsw 7-12-2015 11:22 AM

本帖最后由 syncsw 于 7-12-2015 11:24 AM 编辑

鸡鸡酱牙擦擦，人民大感欣慰。国人要求鸡鸡公开1MDB最新的未稽查账目，用数据让满口谎言的反对党闭嘴，看1MDB如何赚钱。

引用 Wesley902 7-12-2015 11:40 AM

此外，首相纳吉也说，我国在巫统的带领下，是非常kiang kan的。

引用 TamashiiHeroes 7-12-2015 11:40 AM

垃圾1mdb ,建立出来除了A钱进自己口袋还有什么作用

引用 江夏 7-12-2015 11:40 AM

數據他妹。



借220億買Edra‧100億賣掉‧1MDB債務黑洞填不平

（吉隆坡28日訊）一馬發展有限公司（1MDB）終於擺脫其電力資產。只要動一動筆，這家醜聞纏身的基金機構就馬上可以減去三分一的債務，從483億6千萬令吉，降至317億3千萬令吉。

這是因為，1MDB以98億3千萬令吉代價，將Edra全球能源賣給中國廣東核電（CGN）後，Edra已經納進1MDB賬目的68億令吉左右債務，也會跟著剔除。

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引用 colove 7-12-2015 11:43 AM

鸡鸡等下被人挑战辩论，就要怪自己衰多嘴

引用 dogdogman 7-12-2015 11:45 AM

数据？ 纳吉贱卖国家的黄金地段给1MDB，算不算数据之一？

引用 Orochimaru 7-12-2015 11:45 AM

26億也是數據來的

引用 HellJoker 7-12-2015 11:46 AM

你们班贱民知道几个月的GST已经够我cover有多了吗？
现在在吃来买cincin，干，有钱就给税啦，要不然枪毙你

引用 盡用話題 7-12-2015 11:49 AM

他爱怎讲就怎讲，反正只有脑进水的才听得明白他讲甚么

引用 Midnightfly 7-12-2015 11:56 AM

就来一场辩论咯。。。

引用 DenKhoo 7-12-2015 12:02 PM

期待鸡哥下次再有和反对党的潘检伟辩论别放飞机。

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