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苏禄军入侵拿笃事件:国阵统治下的沙巴: 乱七八糟的拿笃(Lahad Datu)

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 楼主| 发表于 28-2-2013 10:32 AM | 显示全部楼层
被人这样报导:
FLASH REPORT: Malaysian army tried to enter the area of 300 Filipinos in Sabah but immediately backed off after Royal Army fired gunshots -DZMM Flash Report 5:45pm


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 楼主| 发表于 28-2-2013 06:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
ICEMAN2011 发表于 28-2-2013 10:32 AM
被人这样报导:

6名大马军人走近甘榜丹多
菲南武装分子朝天开枪警示
2013年2月28日 下午5点52分

入侵沙巴州拿笃的菲南武装分子首领证实其属下曾经在昨日开枪,不过他辩称,他们只是朝天开枪警告大马军人不要趋近。
自称苏禄苏丹的嘉玛鲁(Jamalul Kiram)胞弟阿兹慕迪(Azzimudie Kiram)告诉《当今大马》表示,其一名哨兵是在昨日下午5点发现6名大马军人走近甘榜丹多(Kampung Tanduo),因此朝天开枪警示。
“村内每个人都跳了起来,并走到开枪处,所以我也跟着去。当我到达现场时,我问那名哨兵发生了什么事请。”
“(我的下属)告诉我,(那名哨兵)是朝天开枪来警告那些被发现的大马军人。根据他们,当时共有6名大马军人分成三组趋近,结果他们逃走。”



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发表于 1-3-2013 12:21 AM | 显示全部楼层
繼續跟進,越讀越覺得政府太無能了。
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 楼主| 发表于 1-3-2013 01:22 PM | 显示全部楼层


菲国媒体报导因为苏绿方的人和马军驳火,已有几人被击毙。还不知死亡的是哪方的人。
菲国媒体述说马军首先攻击苏绿方的驻地。

TERKINI! Lahad Datu Kini Dalam Zon Perang! ( +VIDEO )
NEW UPDATE -menyusul lagi

Media Filipina Lapor Tembak Menembak Bermula dan Sudah Ada Kematian di Lahad Datu!!!



Media Filipina melaporkan bahawa beberapa orang telah terbunuh ketika penceroboh dari kesultanan Sulu berbalas tembak dengan tentera Malaysia di Lahad Datu.

Bagaimanapun ia tidak diketahui anggota dari pihak mana yang terbunuh dalam kejadian tersebut.

Akhbar Philippine Star melaporkan bahawa pihak berkuasa Malaysia memulakan serangan ke atas kubu pihak penceroboh tersebut hari ini.

Akhbar itu memetik laporan radio yang menemubual beberapa saudara-mara Sultan Sulu, Sultan Jamalul Kiram, termasuk adiknya Azzimudie Kiram yang mengetuai kumpulan bersenjata di Lahad Datu itu, sebagai berkata terdapat beberapa kematian dalam kejadian tersebut. – MKINI



Laporan terbaru yang dipetik dari laman portal berita Filipina, Philstar.com menyebut kini sedang berlaku insiden berbalas tembakan di Lahad Datu antara tentera Sultan Sulu, Sultan Jamalul Kiram III dengan pasukan keselamatan Malaysia di sekitar bandar di timur Sabah itu.

Dilaporkan juga ada mangsa yang cedera namun bilangannya belum dapat dipastikan.

Suasana di sana dikatakan tegang dengan polis dan tentera dikerah mengawal keadaan yang berbahaya sejak jam 6 pagi waktu tempatan.

Tentera Kiram yang didokong Sultan Sulu juga meningkatkan serangan terhadap barisan pertahanan yang dibina menyebabkan insiden tersebut meletus dalam serangan yang sudah memasuki hari ke-20 itu.

Setakat ini Manila belum memutuskan tindakan terbaru susulan dari insiden tersebut tetapi pentadbiran presiden Aquino kini dalam keadaan bersiap sedia untuk mengerahkan anggota tenteranya ke sempadan laut di Laut Sulu manakala Putrajaya dipercayai sudah membuka bilik situasi (situation room) bagi merencana pelan tindakan seterusnya.

Terdapat kira-kira 800,000 pendatang asing negara itu di negeri ini yang memungkinkan tahap keselamatan untuk penduduk tempatan diragui.

Sultan Kiram masih tidak berganjak dengan keputusannya untuk terus menakluk Lahad Datu walaupun Manila sudah mengarahkan tentera sultan itu meninggalkan Sabah secepat mungkin seperti yang dimaklum Putrajaya kepada Manila beberapa jam lalu.

Wartawan asing yang berada di lokasi kejadian dipercayai bersembunyi akibat khuatir keselamatan mereka terancam sekiranya melaporkan kejadian itu kepada agensi berita masing-masing dan ditahan pihak berkuasa.~ JP

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 楼主| 发表于 1-3-2013 01:28 PM | 显示全部楼层


枪战今早已经开始

中午12点41分更新 - 当今大马

沙巴州拿笃的对峙事件今日宣告升级,自称“苏禄王国皇家军”的菲南武装分子今日据报与大马警方爆发枪战,并且已经导致数人死亡。

根据《雅虎新闻网》报道,匿藏在甘榜丹多(Kampung Tanduo)的菲南武装分子声称,是对方先行攻击他们。

菲南武装分子领袖阿兹慕迪在接受dzBB电台访问时表示,大马保安部队是在今早开枪。

“他们是突然进来,而我们则捍卫自己。”

无论如何,阿兹慕迪也表明,他们不会投降,“我们会继续战斗。”


《雅虎新闻网》也引述苏禄苏丹的女儿杰茜尔《Jesel Kiram),指枪战死者是来自“苏禄军”的阵营。

“我们一些人已经被杀死,(菲律宾)政府明显漠视苏禄王国。”

苏禄苏丹的发言人阿伯拉罕(Abraham Idjirani)则希望,双方能够停止枪战,并且寻求和平的解决方案。

他在接受《菲律宾星报》访问时也指出,他们是在今早6点就接获阿兹慕迪的电话,通知现场局势升温。

“这是一个历史性的早上,大马保安部队先开火。”

无论如何,阿伯拉罕也表示,阿兹慕迪并不确定大马保安部队是否瞄准苏禄军开枪。

阿伯拉罕指出,阿兹慕迪通知他们,大马部队已经逼近他们,并且搜查武装分子匿藏的甘榜丹多一带。

“不过,他们是缓慢行进,而大马警方随后已经退后一些。”

他声称,大马部队一度距离甘榜丹多只是300公尺。

誓言战至最后一口气

阿伯拉罕也希望,大马政府能够重新考虑其行动,并且强调其身在拿笃的支持者并非有意制造麻烦。


“但是,如果大马政府继续展开行动,那么苏禄王国的支持者就没有其他选择,只能保卫他们自己直到最后一口气。”


现在一切新消息都只能从菲律宾的报导得知。

根据《当今大马》 英文版本,

The Sabah radio said their efforts to get comments from the Malaysian authorities has failed as the latter were mum on the incident, but some villagers has since claimed of seeing bodies being moved out.

(根据沙巴本土电台, 附近村人有看到尸体被台出,是否也表示说,我国的军人也有伤亡?但由于我国当局完全封闭新闻,因此无法从对方处得到确定)
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今早沙巴苏禄军驳火鎗战中,有两名警员不幸在鎗战中殉职,今午11点由警车抬出主要防守站。现场媒体被驻守警员指示不许拍照。
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为什么是警察?为什么不是军队?
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 楼主| 发表于 1-3-2013 02:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
( Source: http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/222636 )
"传拿笃今早爆发枪战10人死,希山否认警方向苏禄军开枪"

经过将近三个星期的对峙之后,沙巴州拿笃今早传出大马警方与菲南武装分子爆发枪战,并且据报已经导致10人死亡。

不过,今早枪战的事发过程却出现“罗生门”。尽管菲南武装分子指责是大马警方开枪在先,但是大马内政部长希山慕丁却否认此说,反指是对方先攻击大马保安部队,而大马一方并未开枪回击。

希山慕丁在推特上表示,“我证实大马保安部队没有开到一次枪,相反是在今早10点被人开枪。”

“现场的情况还是完全受到控制,(菲南武装分子)还是受到包围,而执法部队并未开枪回击。让我们一起祈祷。”

菲律宾政府目前仍在试图核实关于枪战的情况,并表示他们至今还没有接获死亡报告。

苏禄王国称10死4伤

逾百名自称“苏禄王国皇家军”的菲南武装分子,是在2月9日入侵沙巴州拿笃130公里外的甘榜丹多,并且与大马军警对峙至今。这些武装分子声称,他们的目的是要索回沙巴州,因为该州在历史上曾是苏禄王国的领土。

根据《马新社》报道,距离对峙现场附近的沙哈拔17垦殖区也有听见枪声,并相信这是因为大马保安部队开始展开逮捕行动所致。

无论如何,警方至今还没有给予证实。

苏禄王国的发言人阿伯拉罕(Abraham Idjirani)则声称,“苏禄军”方面已经有10人死亡,另有4人受伤。其中一名死者是女性。

吁大马政府停止攻击

根据菲律宾ABS-CBN电视台网站报道,阿伯拉罕是刚和“苏禄军”首领阿兹慕迪通过电话而获知此事,阿兹慕迪也是自称苏禄苏丹的嘉玛鲁的胞弟。

阿伯拉罕也呼吁大马政府停止攻击,并表示其支持者只有数人配有枪械,而其他人则是只是拥有弯刀和刀。

他也声称,大马警方是使用狙击手来对付“苏禄军”。

纳吉促入侵者速离开

另一方面,大马首相纳吉则敦促菲南入侵者,在大马当局采取行动前先离开。

根据《星报》报道,纳吉表示,这些入侵者待在沙巴越久,情况就对危险,而大马当局将会采取谨慎的方式来处理对峙,以免发生流血。

“(这些武装分子)必须意识到他们所做的事情,是一个严重的罪行,而我希望他们会接受献议,尽快和平离去。”

苏禄军首领自称防卫

较早前,根据《雅虎新闻网》报道,自称“苏禄王国皇家军”的菲南武装分子声称,是大马保安部队先行攻击他们。

菲南武装分子领袖阿兹慕迪在接受dzBB电台访问时表示,大马保安部队是在今早开枪。

“他们是突然进来,而我们则保护自己。”

无论如何,阿兹慕迪也表明,他们不会投降,“我们会继续战斗。”

死者来自苏禄军阵营

《雅虎新闻网》也引述苏禄苏丹的女儿杰茜尔《Jesel Kiram),指枪战死者是来自“苏禄军”的阵营。

“我们一些人已经被杀死,(菲律宾)政府明显漠视苏禄王国。”

苏禄苏丹的发言人阿伯拉罕(Abraham Idjirani)则希望,双方能够停止枪战,并且寻求和平的解决方案。

他在接受《菲律宾星报》访问时也指出,他们是在今早6点就接获阿兹慕迪的电话,通知现场局势升温。

“这是一个历史性的早上,大马保安部队先开火。”

一度距离甘榜300米

无论如何,阿伯拉罕也表示,阿兹慕迪并不确定大马保安部队是否瞄准苏禄军开枪。

阿伯拉罕指出,阿兹慕迪通知他们,大马部队已经逼近他们,并且搜查武装分子匿藏的甘榜丹多一带。

“不过,他们是缓慢行进,而大马警方随后已经退后一些。”

他声称,大马部队一度距离甘榜丹多只是300公尺。

誓言战至最后一口气

阿伯拉罕也希望,大马政府能够重新考虑其行动,并且强调其身在拿笃的支持者并非有意制造麻烦。

“但是,如果大马政府继续展开行动,那么苏禄王国的支持者就没有其他选择,只能保卫他们自己直到最后一口气。”


( Source: http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/222639 )
"Beberapa terbunuh dalam kejadian berbalas tembak di Lahad Datu"

Media Filipina melaporkan bahawa beberapa orang telah terbunuh ketika penceroboh dari kesultanan Sulu berbalas tembak dengan pasukan keselamatan Malaysia di Lahad Datu.

Bagaimanapun ia tidak diketahui anggota dari pihak mana yang terbunuh dalam kejadian tersebut.

Akhbar Philippine Star melaporkan bahawa pihak berkuasa Malaysia memulakan serangan ke atas kubu pihak penceroboh tersebut hari ini.

Akhbar itu memetik laporan radio yang menemubual beberapa saudara-mara Sultan Sulu, Sultan Jamalul Kiram, termasuk adiknya Azzimudie Kiram yang mengetuai kumpulan bersenjata di Lahad Datu itu, sebagai berkata terdapat beberapa kematian dalam kejadian tersebut.


( Source: http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/222635 )
"Sulu sultanate claims 10 intruders killed in Lahad Datu"

A spokesperson of the sultanate of Sulu claimed that 10 people were killed and four others wounded in a firefight between Malaysian security forces and the Sulu sultanate intruders in Lahad Datu this morning.

ABS-CBNnews reported that spokesperson Abraham Idjirani said he had just talked to the self-proclaimed Sulu sultan Jamalul Kiram’s (left) brother Azzimudie Kiram, who heads the armed group in Lahad Datu.

Azzimudie confirmed that 10 of his men were killed and four others wounded in the shooting incident.

"He saw the bodies himself," Idjirani told a press conference in Manila.

"The fatalities included one woman."

Idjirani appealed to the Malaysian government to stop the attack, saying Azzimudie’s men were armed only with bolos (machetes) and knives and only a few had guns.

He claimed that Malaysian police commandos were using snipers to get at Azzimudie’s men.

Malaysian Chinese daily China Press has quoted unverified sources at the scene claimeing that two intruders were shot dead, while three members of the Malaysian forces suffered wounds.

However, ABS-CBNnews reported that the Malaysian ambassador to the Philippines has confirmed there had been a shooting incident between the two sides but there were no casualties.

Philippine Department of Foreign Affair (DFA) spokesperson Raul Hernandez told the news agency that Philippine Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario had just talked to the Malaysian ambassador, who confirmed there had been shooting in Lahad Datu but that it had already stopped.

He said Manila is monitoring the situation.

Ricky Carandang, the Philippines' presidential spokesman, told Reuters that some of the group had tried to breach a cordon setup by the Malaysian security forces this morning.

"There was a warning shot but there's no report of casualty, that was what we got and confirmed by the DFA," he told Reuters.

Earlier today, Idjirani told The Philippine Star that Azzimudie’s group had been fired upon by Malaysian security forces.

Idjirani claimed that the sultanate members had called and informed them about the rising tension at about 6am today.

“This morning is a moment in history, that the Malaysian security forces fired the first shot,” he was quoted as saying.

On the other hand, he noted that Azzimudie could not ascertain if the first shot had been aimed at his people.

However, Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein has claimed that Malaysian security forces were attacked at 10am today, but that had yet to return fire.

“Lahad Datu - I confirm that our security forces have not taken a single shot but were shot at 10am this morning!

“Lahad Datu: the situation is still under full control. They (the intruders) are still being surrounded. The authority has not returned any shots. Let us pray!” he posted in his Twitter account.

Sulu group appealed to Malaysia

According to Idjirani, Azzimudie also informed them earlier that the Malaysian authorities were already approaching the area.

"However, there was bit of a respite and it was good that the Malaysian police had withdrawn later, according to crown prince (Azzimudie)," Idjirani said.

He claimed that the Malaysian forces came as close as 300 metres from the area where more than 200 followers of the sultanate had been holed up.

The sultanate official also appealed to the Malaysian government to reconsider its actions, stressing that their people in Lahad Datu have no intentions of creating trouble.

"However, if the Malaysian authorities push for action, then the sultanate followers there have no recourse but to defend themselves to their last breath," Idjirani said.

Another Philippine media, Philippine Daily Inquirer, reported that a Sabah-based radio station had broadcast that its reporter who was stationed near Felda 17 - an area near Kampung Tanduo where the armed group was holed up - heard heavy firing shortly after 10am.

The Sabah radio said their efforts to get comments from the Malaysian authorities has failed as the latter were mum on the incident, but some villagers have since claimed seeing bodies being moved out.

In Pekan, Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak was quoted by The Star as saying that the intruders should leave before action is taken to force them out.

Najib said the longer they stay in Sabah, the more dangerous the situation would be for them, and Malaysian authorities had taken a careful approach in handling the situation to prevent bloodshed.

“The group must realise that what they are doing is a serious offence and I hope they will accept the offer to leave peacefully as soon as possible,” he said.
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 楼主| 发表于 1-3-2013 02:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
cmz0927 发表于 1-3-2013 02:34 PM
为什么是警察?为什么不是军队?



国防部: 应对沙巴苏禄军,警方是主力,军队仅辅助。

国防部副部长强调,军方扮演的是辅助角色,属于第二道的防线。

为什么是警方而不是军人?

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这整个事件可能是巫统政权一手策划,经由国家安全理由宣布国家进入紧急状态,冻结即将来临的大选,由军政掌权,并且利用此机会大力打击反对党,看你们人民敢造反!
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悲哀的楼主,恐天下不乱
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pretty_lawrence 发表于 1-3-2013 02:57 PM
这整个事件可能是巫统政权一手策划,经由国家安全理由宣布国家进入紧急状态,冻结即将来临的大选,由军政 ...

河馬以後就不用想出國買包包了
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 楼主| 发表于 1-3-2013 04:11 PM | 显示全部楼层



拿笃爆发枪战互指对方先开枪
大马两警殉职,苏禄军10人死
2013年3月1日 中午12点06分

经过将近三个星期的对峙之后,沙巴州拿笃今早传出大马警方与菲南武装分子爆发枪战,并且据报已经导致12人死亡。

苏禄王国的发言人阿伯拉罕(Abraham Idjirani)声称,“苏禄军”方面已经有10人死亡,另有4人受伤。其中一名死者是女性。

《马新社》则报道,2名警员在枪战中殉职,并且有2名军人受伤,已火速空送至医院救治。
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 楼主| 发表于 1-3-2013 04:16 PM | 显示全部楼层


两名特警遭迫击炮攻击身亡
当局基于安全指示记者离开
两名特别突击部队警员,在被一组菲律宾公民闯入的甘榜丹多,遭到迫击炮(mortar)攻击身亡。

他们在甘榜丹多的一处站岗时遭到袭击。

在甘榜丹多沙哈拔17垦殖区驻守的马新社记者指出,上述两名警员的遗体由其他警员抬入警方的卡车,以送往拿笃医院。

详文:http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/222672
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菲律宾报导:打完了,10人投降,2人在逃,大马2警员殉职

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菲律宾报导:打完了,10人投降,2人在逃,大马2警员殉职

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好了!! 娜娜可以宣布大选了!


DFA: Sabah standoff over; 2 Malaysian cops killed

by David Dizon, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 03/01/2013 3:45 PM | Updated as of 03/01/2013 3:45 PM


10 from Kiram group surrender; others on the run

MANILA - The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) on Friday said 2 Malaysian police officers were killed and one wounded after being shot at by followers of Datu Raja Muda Agbimuddin in Sabah, Malaysia.

"Malaysian authorities, particularly the Malaysian police, are now pursuing the group. Two were killed and 1 wounded from the Malaysian police after their vehicle(s) were fired upon by the Kiram group. The ambassador said the standoff is now over," Foreign Affairs spokesman Raul Hernandez said in a statement.

Hernandez said the DFA is still validating a report from the group of Sultan Jamalul Kiram III that 10 followers of Raja Muda were killed while 4 others were wounded in the shooting.

"What we have from the Malaysian ambassador is that 10 men of the Kirams surrendered and 1 owner of the house where Kiram stayed was killed. From the Malaysian authorities, 2 were killed and 1 was wounded after the Malaysian police vehicle was fired upon by the Kiram group," he said.

Two of Kiram's men also escaped and ran towards the sea, according to the Malaysian ambassador. Hernandez said they have no information if those who left Kiram's group were able to escape.  

He said Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario asked the Malaysian ambassador to the Philippines for a full briefing of the operations conducted by Malaysian forces in Lahad Datu.

He said del Rosario submitted a note verbale to the ambassador, asking for full access to Raja Muda's group so that the Philippine government could give medical treatment to the wounded and provide consular assistance to the rest of the group

"Secretary del Rosario also requested clearance for the Philippine Navy ship AT-296 BRP Tagbanua to proceed to Lahad Datu to enable Philippine medical personnel abroad to attend to the wounded and ferry them and the remaining members of the group back to their respective homes and families," he said.

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发表于 1-3-2013 04:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
我的心声,全体沙巴汉的心声(汉奸,25仔,同谋合污,贪敛,没良心的人全徘除在外。)。半岛人或各半岛政党都不怀好意,和BN没差别。


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rhtm 发表于 1-3-2013 04:29 PM
我的心声,全体沙巴汉的心声。半岛人或各半岛政党都不怀好意,和BN没差别。


全体沙巴汉的心声...

真的是全体???不是好像被本土的一个政党投靠国阵出卖自己的州的吗?
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发表于 1-3-2013 04:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
ICEMAN2011 发表于 1-3-2013 04:37 PM
全体沙巴汉的心声...

真的是全体???不是好像被本土的一个政党投靠国阵出卖自己的州的吗?

谢谢提醒梦中人。应该是汉奸,25仔,同谋合污,贪敛,没良心的人全徘除在外。
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