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发表于 28-2-2009 01:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
小帝也大胆说一句,citigroup和LVS还没见底。。。
但应该不会倒的啦。在等USD1的到来。。。
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发表于 28-2-2009 02:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
【美股盤後】銀行股領跌 標普500挫至12年低點
2009/02/28 08:46 中央社
(中央社台北2009年 2月28日電)美股週五收黑,標準普爾500指數挫至12年低點,主要因政府三度紓困花旗集團 (C) 將削減現有股東持股74%,加上最新公佈的數據顯示美經濟衰退速度超乎預估,拖累美股走勢。
Federated Clover Investment Advisors基金經理人Matthew Kaufler接受彭博訪問時表示,花旗問題簡直是場噩夢,並且持續擴大,何時可終結尚不得而知。而且就發生在惡化的GDP數據公佈之日,進一步打擊市場信心。花旗收盤重挫39%,報1.50美元,改寫18年低點。美國政府三度紓困花旗,財政部表示如果民間股東也同意以相同條件轉換成為普通股,財政部將高達 250億美元的優先股轉換成為普通股。
花旗週五爆大量,成交量超過18億股,改寫美股紀錄,佔總成交量140億股約13%,超過全美國交易所 3個月日均量46%。
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发表于 28-2-2009 02:35 PM | 显示全部楼层

美國財政部願意將至多250億美元的花旗集團優先股轉換為普通股

2009年 2月 27日 21:38





國財政部(Treasury Department)週五宣佈﹐願意將所持花旗集團(Citigroup Inc., C)至多250億美元的優先股轉換為普通股。此舉將更好地保護股東利益免遭損失。

但是﹐美國財政部同時明確表示﹐美國政府這樣做的前提條件是花旗集團能夠吸引私人投資者也這樣做。


美國財政部週五上午在一份公告中表示﹐願意參加花旗集團優先股到普通股的轉股計劃﹐但轉股額將與私人投資者轉股額保持一比一的比例。

美國財政部還在公告中表示﹐將接受交換計劃中其他優先股股東所獲得的最優惠的條件和價格。

美國財政部還表示﹐這一交易不會增加財政部對花旗集團的投資額。

花旗集團週五也在一份公告中表示﹐根據可以轉換的最大股數計算﹐美國政府可以擁有花旗集團發行在外普通股總股數的36%左右﹔現有股東將擁有花旗集團發行在外股數的26%左右。

美國財政部還表示﹐花旗集團董事長已告知財政部﹐花旗集團將盡快對董事會進行調整﹐以後董事會的多數董事將是新的獨立董事。
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发表于 28-2-2009 02:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
Citi, U.S. Reach Accord on a Third Bailout Government Puts Itself on Hook for More Losses; Stake of Up to 36% Stops Short of Nationalization

Citigroup Inc. and the federal government agreed to a third rescue that will give U.S. taxpayers as much as 36% of the bank but expose their ownership stake to greater risk from the recession and housing crisis.
Friday's agreement shows how hard the Obama administration is trying to stabilize the U.S. banking industry without a full-fledged nationalization that would wipe out investors and leave the government in charge. But the deal will punish existing shareholders of Citigroup, who will see their stake diluted by 74%, and likely do little to change the awkward relationship between federal officials and management of the New York company.




Government officials don't see the latest agreement with Citigroup as a template for other rescues, though bank stocks fell on worries that the agreement will be cloned at other suffering U.S. financial institutions.
According to Citigroup executives, the Treasury Department and other banking regulators didn't try to squeeze new concessions from the New York bank. For example, the company wasn't pushed to make more loans, rein in foreclosures or curb executive pay beyond previously agreed or required levels, these people said.
Over the past several days, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and other government officials discussed whether to require the removal of Citigroup Chief Executive Vikram Pandit, according to a person familiar with the discussions. But government officials concluded it was impractical to oust him, partly because of a lack of strong potential successors. A boardroom shake-up already is in motion, largely due to pressure from the Fed.
This rescue also was more palatable because the government isn't pumping in additional taxpayer dollars. Instead, as much as $25 billion in preferred shares held by the U.S. government will be converted into common shares as Citigroup struggles to stabilize itself following more than $37 billion in net losses during the past five quarters.
Depending on how many current holders of Citigroup preferred stock agree to a similar move, the company's tangible common equity could surge to $81.1 billion from $29.7 billion at Dec. 31. That would reverse the recent slide in tangible common equity -- a gauge of what shareholders would have left if the company were liquidated -- that fueled a downward spiral in Citigroup shares.
The conversion leaves taxpayers exposed to the risk of greater losses. The government's preferred holdings had stood ahead of common stock in Citigroup's capital structure, meaning they were less likely to lose value if the company's woes continue to mount. In addition, by converting much of the U.S. stake to common shares, Citigroup won't have to pay the hefty dividend payouts that were attached to the preferred stock.
"The government is bending over backwards to not go along the lines of nationalization," said Bernie Sussman, chief investment officer of Spectrum Asset Management, a unit of Principal Financial Group Inc. that manages about $6.9 billion in assets. "They had the alternative to completely zero out the common stock."
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Citigroup shares tumbled 96 cents, or 39%, to $1.50 in 4 p.m. New York Stock Exchange trading Friday, reflecting that current holders of the bank's common stock will hold as little as 26% when the deal is completed.
Some investors were especially rattled by news that Citigroup will stop paying dividends on most of the bank's preferred shares. At many banks, preferred shares have been a haven from the epidemic of dividend cuts and eliminations on common stock. "The cost of doing this with one bank is that it makes shareholders at other banks nervous," said Campbell Harvey, professor of finance at Duke University's Fuqua School of Business in Durham, N.C.
Instead, financial institutions that need to bolster their balance sheets following regulatory "stress tests" now under way at the 19 largest U.S. banks can get new convertible preferred shares from the government or convert existing shares under terms announced by the Treasury Department this past week. The conditions include converting preferred shares to common equity at a 10% discount to the prevailing price as of Feb. 9.
Wall Street also is worried about "whether the company will be run in the interest of private shareholders or for the public good," said John McDonald, a banking analyst at Sanford Bernstein & Co. "It's a valid question what the priorities will look like."
Vikram Pandit



Messrs. Geithner and Pandit began discussing details of the stock-conversion plan last Sunday evening, according to people familiar with the situation. Agreement on a basic framework was reached relatively quickly, but Citigroup and officials from the Federal Reserve, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. and Treasury then haggled over issues such as what would happen to $20 billion of taxpayer-owned preferred shares not included in the deal.
At times, Citigroup executives grew frustrated by what they viewed as slow responses from Washington. Asked Friday about the back-and-forth of the negotiations, one Citigroup executive responded: "There isn't one. We just wait." Some executives worried that private investors needed to go along with the deal might get cold feet if an agreement wasn't reached quickly.
On Friday, Citigroup said that most of the private institutions that hold a combined $12.5 billion in Citigroup preferred shares have agreed to convert their shares to common stock at $3.25 apiece. Among them are Singapore's sovereign-wealth fund and Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia. The New Jersey pension system, which bought Citigroup preferred shares in January 2008, is "still reviewing" the agreement, a spokesman said



紅字是現有股東最關心的事!

[ 本帖最后由 blackcat98 于 28-2-2009 02:41 PM 编辑 ]
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发表于 28-2-2009 02:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 luckyman 于 28-2-2009 01:37 PM 发表
小帝也大胆说一句,citigroup和LVS还没见底。。。
但应该不会倒的啦。在等USD1的到来。。。

到时候你就不会进了 
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发表于 28-2-2009 03:08 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Orochimaru 于 28-2-2009 02:51 PM 发表

到时候你就不会进了


会进地,大不了跟它拼了,如果真的停牌,就亏个3千多块咯。
但如果接近底部的话,收个5到十年,真的会发达的哦。。。
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发表于 28-2-2009 03:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
如果真的跌到一元, 窩會進場了................

收它個幾張等機會........................
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发表于 28-2-2009 06:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
如果要博,小弟会博lvs, 之前有起到100 ++ USD, 博个四五番很有可能。Citigroup 之前最高才27 usd, 起了都不是很够味道。

还有那个stockmaster8k教人不要买美股的, 最好就不要买股了。你没勇气, 什么股都很危险的啦! 投资都是有风险的, 玩不起就放定期吧。

HIGH RISK HIGH GAIN !

地球是很危险的, 你快回去火星吧!
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发表于 28-2-2009 07:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Gnoit 于 28-2-2009 06:36 PM 发表
如果要博,小弟会博lvs, 之前有起到100 ++ USD, 博个四五番很有可能。Citigroup 之前最高才27 usd, 起了都不是很够味道。

还有那个stockmaster8k教人不要买美股的, 最好就不要买股了。你没勇气, 什么股都很危 ...

citigroup从2004到2007都维持在USD50+-的水平。

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发表于 28-2-2009 08:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Gnoit 于 28-2-2009 06:36 PM 发表
如果要博,小弟会博lvs, 之前有起到100 ++ USD, 博个四五番很有可能。Citigroup 之前最高才27 usd, 起了都不是很够味道。

还有那个stockmaster8k教人不要买美股的, 最好就不要买股了。你没勇气, 什么股都很危 ...


说的好哦。。
妈股是很安全的,。。不要买美股,没勇气什么都做不成,怕这怕哪的不如乖乖打工,赚了钱放银行好了ooo
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发表于 1-3-2009 01:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
小弟是美股新手,想请问各位大大一下,LVS是从事什么行业的啊?
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发表于 1-3-2009 01:53 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 stockmaster8k 于 28-2-2009 12:56 PM 发表
往往那些狂妄自大和又自认自己有着过人思想的人,然后有着非常大的目标-几年后可以赚多少钱是很容易在股市里跌倒的。凡是都有利与弊,只要时时警惕就可以了!

凡是都要冷静思考,一定要做到手上有股,心中无股的境界!

如果我所恢复的不刚你听的,小弟在这里认输让你赢!

NAPSTER是股神,能够和WARREN BUFFET同坐!

哪里知道小弟改天进美股的时候还要请教NAPSTER这位股神,可惜小弟的资金有限!


一开始你就先说人家破产,利用嘲笑的口气。
没有人得罪你。
你要说话就温和点,不要诅咒他人。

论坛是交流,分享的地方。
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发表于 1-3-2009 01:55 AM | 显示全部楼层
我认为citi 会像AIG, Fannie, Freddie那样,慢慢的跌下去。

不值得去拥有。

短期内:能走就走了。

如果持股能力强:最快也要3年才能取得赚钱。

3年其实也不算太久。

[ 本帖最后由 napster 于 1-3-2009 02:03 AM 编辑 ]
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发表于 1-3-2009 12:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
请问lvs 是什么股??
你们在什么网看到这些股价??
现在LVS 多少钱??最高峰多少?
aIG 多少钱?最高峰多少?
CITIGROUP 多少钱?最高峰多少?
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发表于 1-3-2009 02:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 软趴趴 于 1-3-2009 12:06 PM 发表
请问lvs 是什么股??
你们在什么网看到这些股价??
现在LVS 多少钱??最高峰多少?
aIG 多少钱?最高峰多少?
CITIGROUP 多少钱?最高峰多少?





老兄,查下 yahoo finance 就有啦 ~!
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发表于 1-3-2009 08:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 SUNNY仔 于 25-2-2009 01:42 PM 发表

中个6倍就回本了..还要36倍??你还蛮贪心喔...


不贪就不玩美股了。。。。

city group 现在1.50 。。。 应该是时候了。。。 可惜我的户口还在等。。。。  
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发表于 1-3-2009 09:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 napster 于 1-3-2009 01:55 AM 发表
我认为citi 会像AIG, Fannie, Freddie那样,慢慢的跌下去。

不值得去拥有。

短期内:能走就走了。

如果持股能力强:最快也要3年才能取得赚钱。

3年其实也不算太久。

朋友...别吓我喔...我还拿着2千 CITI 在USD2.50..还想在USD1.30再进2千拉平衡去..不过,我是买来收的..并不是对敲的...当然,短期内如果跳上USD5.00还是会卖的..
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发表于 1-3-2009 09:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 软趴趴 于 1-3-2009 12:06 PM 发表
请问lvs 是什么股??
你们在什么网看到这些股价??
现在LVS 多少钱??最高峰多少?
aIG 多少钱?最高峰多少?
CITIGROUP 多少钱?最高峰多少?

建议你先做一轮功课才进场..不然会很吃亏的...最基本的是进雅虎网站查询你所AIM的股票,然后跟进几星期再作打算...茂茂然进场只会碰钉子的..
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发表于 1-3-2009 09:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 风神 于 1-3-2009 08:12 PM 发表


不贪就不玩美股了。。。。

city group 现在1.50 。。。 应该是时候了。。。 可惜我的户口还在等。。。。  

我USD2.50就进了.. 鸟.......你在等什么户口??
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发表于 1-3-2009 09:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 SUNNY仔 于 1-3-2009 09:44 PM 发表

我USD2.50就进了.. 鸟.......你在等什么户口??


citigroup 1 lot 是多少??
1000 unit 吗?
1。5X3。7=rm5500。是不是??
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