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在Megan的2006年年报中,Megan共提了9次HD-DVD和Blu-Ray,Megan还为了安置HD-DVD和Blu-Ray生产线特地买了旁边的工厂,这显示Megan极为重视HD-DVD和Blu-Ray。
"On 6 January 2006, MTSB has acquired a piece of freehold land together with a three storey office block cum single storey factory of an adjoining lot to its existing factory building in Subang Jaya Industrial Estate. The factory building is currently used as a warehouse and this location will be intended for the expansion of new high-end optical media products such as HD-DVD and Blu-Ray."
Megan对HD-DVD和Blu-Ray抱了很大希望,马来主席,Macy, Chong都提过HD-DVD和Blu-Ray生产线的进展。可不可能13条HD-DVD和Blu-Ray生产线其实都不存在?那马来主席在下面提的HD -DVD和Blu-Ray月产量是开玩笑的?Megan这么大,Yeo可以骗过所有人?
另外,preliminary report是这么写的:
• MTSB's payment of a deposit of RM211 million for 13 production lines also appears to be fictitious
所以"印度人要将错就错,把新机器的单据暂时弄不见"的猜测是可以成立的 (Investigative Accountant只是找不到新机器的单据,并没说13条HD-DVD和Blu-Ray生产线其实都不存在)。
PS: 下面图片是Megan的2006AGM报道。
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回复 #1878 8years 的帖子
把khokhokho的帖子搬回来。
PS:就算我们说的是真的,相信到时候很多人也已经阵亡了。。。
原帖由 khokhokho 于 10-6-2007 12:49 PM 发表
chukh1大哥!
你好,惜用你的貼一下,本想自已開貼,但是太多人貼MEGAN的貼了,只要惜用你的船用一下。 (不好和我收過路費用)。
YEO的計劃。
很明顯在上一次的股東大會只有YEO沒到場,如果講那天子公司的買新機器的文件是YEO拿給股東大會的發表文,那如是YEO的手上拿到的文件,那這是最好的証件和証明,而且YEO他又突然在中國生病,沒來,這樣如果出事情了,他也可以脫離罪行,不到場的罪證,所以子公司出現了假账問題,MEGAN的董事反而去做擔保人,而YEO卻沒有去擔保,所以肯的一點問題出現了,MEGAN的董事應早知這是YEO所做的一切,所以他們才一起去做擔保人,如果不去做,子公司被人告到破產,直接拉累MEGAN的,所以這些董事一起不讓子公司倒閉,讓假账弄到馬來西亞人人都知道,就是要YEO下不了台吧。
所以董事就讓MEGAN停止交易,之後又公開事情出去,讓子公司的假账暴光出來,之後就直接讓別的公司的调查员去進子公司,初步的假账高達5億多,這下子,MEGAN董事應該已知道YEO的計劃了,所以才敢在星期一讓MEGAN回復交易,如果董事不肯定的話,我想不太可能讓MEGAN這麼快就交易,不通想讓MEGAN進一步去 PN 17報到嗎?(特意給人收購?)
也有可能這五億多的負債數目也是YEO照假文件出來的,所以董事部才會這麼敢就去做了擔保人,所以種種事件可以看出,如果MEGAN事件真是YEO他全部偽造出來的假象,目標是什麼,他為何會去到這麼盡,玩到這麼大的事情出來,唯一的就是內亂而已。
YEO和MEGAN董事一起的。(不過馬來人不敢這樣亂來)。
YEO可以一走了之,全部罪YEO一人頂下來,馬來西亞法律沒法捉他回來,所以MEGAN最後破產,進入PN 17,重組,給人收購,完結。
股價下跌 RM 0.050 如果到時有人要收購MEGAN,那就是有計劃的黑手。
股價保持不變 証明MEGAN不會因子公司而倒閉。
謝謝。
[ 本帖最后由 Mr.Business 于 10-6-2007 09:46 PM 编辑 ] |
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证委会开始调查 媒岸账目事件
2007-6-9 23:38:33
(吉隆坡9日讯)证券委员会经已开始调查媒岸控股(MEGAN,7101,主板工业产品组)的子公司Memory Tech私人有限公司在其财报上出现的违规事件。
媒岸控股在致给马交所的文告中说:“公司将继续与证委会合作,并且提供一切所需的协助与资料予证委会,务求尽快完成调查工作。”
该公司指出,它将与专业顾问及账目调查员一起,计划完成现阶段的调查工作,目的是要找出有关财报上的错误以及提供适当的文件予有关当局,以使后者考虑作出起诉。
它称,证委会的调查并没有为我们的日常业务带来任何冲击。
http://chinese.cari.com.my/news/kwongwah/newsshow.php?n=87889&rlt=1&cls=109&txt=2007/6/9/jj200769_87889&rt=N
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认输了。
五年后又是一条好汉。
大家保重。 ![](static/image/smiley/default/smile.gif) |
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megan-w還有rm0.06
買的人有毛病。。。![](static/image/smiley/default/shocked.gif) |
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收了 MEGAN 3 年 ,MEGAN 竟然做假帐 ,真的非常失望 。
我的平均价是 RM 1。37 ,我在 RM 0。15 卖完我的 MEGAN 。 |
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发表于 11-6-2007 11:20 AM
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11:14am 11/06/2007
Megan的交易量=29889300股;是oustanding shares (205millions股) 的14.58%。
Megan-WA的交易量=11125800股;是oustanding shares (71.14millions股) 的15.64%。
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12:52pm 11/06/2007
Megan的交易量=33041300股;是oustanding shares (205millions股) 的16.12%。
Megan-WA的交易量=11937800股;是oustanding shares (71.14millions股) 的16.78%。
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回复 #1885 wtk75 的帖子 和mr.business 和所有kawan megan
各位kawan megan, 今天开始我不再是kawan megan. 希望你们可以赚大钱。。
是福不是祸,是祸躲不过,救到的精兵寥寥可数。可悲,可悲。。。
p/s to wtk75, 希望我能5年后重来 ![](static/image/smiley/default/biggrin.gif)
[ 本帖最后由 江湖 于 11-6-2007 03:08 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 11-6-2007 01:22 PM
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回复 #1894 江湖 的帖子
虽然不是kawan megan,但依然可继续讨论,发表自己的看法
大家不要搞到好像曲终人散 酱.. ![](static/image/smiley/default/sweat.gif) |
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Megan top hopeless stock
This wat i posted on megan at my blogs 9 month ago, now realised.
Why Megan under my top hopeless stocks WhyMEGAN? I think many of us listen recommendation to buy Megan. Not onlyfrom analysis, many stocks forum like Cari, Sam gang and so on. But whytoday remain will drop around 60 cent. Standard & Poor just rankingthis counter for sales and 12month target price at 60 cent.
Whylike that? Standard & Poor estimate 07 & 08 financial year-endnet profit at 35 cents per share or equivalent to PE less than 2. Superearning, why still recommend to “SELL”.
Many of us noticed thatduring FY 2005.Megan making huge Capital investment of RM 5 Billion orequivalent to 73-year equivalent payback period (Not consider the PV).
Wrongexpectation of market and profit margin of product (DVD-R) make thiscompany become risks in liquidity (see Table below). Cash crisis forrepayment of loan from 2007 to 2012, the company still contractualanother RM 110 Million for 2007 to 2008.
· Does anything themanagement done to reduced the gearing or waiting for liquidity, I amdoubt the future ability to paid debt. Over estimated of market andmake a big investment.
· Does any risk management and properfeasibility done before such decision? For small cap counter, 5 Billionis huge amounts, any proper record and discussion for BOD before thisdecision.
· Who protect small investor like us? With incrementalprofit of 20 m after such big expansion. The pay back period may be aslong as 250 year! Some may argue here this is replacement oftechnology; even we take the yearly net profit at 80 m per year it willtake another 62 year of repayment. What the stupid decision.
Isuseless to comment on the profitability of single digit PE, What is the% of depreciation and so on. Let review the forecast cashflow as tablebelow :
('000) 2007 2008 2009 2100 2111 2112
Cashflow from operation 110,000 110,000 110,000 110,000 110,000 110,000
Purchase of Fixed assets (55,000) (55,000)
Repayment of loan & HP (16,313) (16,313) (65,250) (65,250) (65,250)
bai adm islam loan (40,000) (40,000) (40,000) (60,000) (60,000) (70,000)
Balance/(Deficit) (1,313) (1,313) 4,750 (15,250) (15,250) 40,000
fromthe table, you will see the cash deficit for the rest of the period,why they still plan for investment, future uncertainty will make thisinvestment useless, and bank won't borrow money to our gear company.here assume many factor un-quo. so it is dangerous for company tocontinous expansion.
Propose - Action
Aswe know that margin of CD or CD-R continuous fall and margin will tightfrom time to time. They should reduce the outsourcing to sub- con.Start their own in house production. This is similarly in manyindustries with tight margin. The profit will highly depend on volumeand production efficiency. In Megan case, if next 2 year expansion isbuy some 2nd hand machine for these lines. I am agreed on that too, butnot for those lines with uncertain market condition. To hold all ofother investment of RM110 million for other equipment. Try to reducedgearing of the company by 5-year time. Later then consider otherinvestment opportunity. At the mean time by given reasonable dividendto shareholder. High Dividend yield is the trend in equity market. Sopaid said 5% dividend to shareholder is better than investing in stupidequipment. With this hope will build investor confident on that.Disposal of singapore factory to reduced the gearing, since the companyalready moving operation to malaysia.
What reason I learn
Iam holding Megan from day 1 it listing and continuous average down to1.2 then I stop. Now with market price 60 cent, I also make a big paperloss on that. It is one of the small caps and makes many criteria in my15-point mention. What I will do, I will hold it for another 2 Quarter,see any action taken by management. Otherwise I will dispose itpermanently due to foreseeable liquidity risks. sad to said thiscompany problem is expansion too fast, then become over gear. now theyneed to take a break for few year.
I will not able to attendMegan AGM on coming, if any one want attend, I would like to give theproxy to you, just mail to me (limkwongwee@hotmail.com ) . Please helpto forward this issued during AGM.
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原帖由 江湖 于 11-6-2007 12:53 PM 发表
各位kawan megan, 今天开始我不再是kawan megan. 希望你们可以赚大钱。。
是福不是祸,是祸躲不过,救到精兵寥寥可数。可悲,可悲。。。
p/s to wtk75, 希望我能5年后重来
Kawan江湖,你好。
以Megan的结局作为此次的句号,一种遗憾。
这经验虽然有点昂贵,却不失为明日的前车之鉴。
塞翁失马,焉知非福?下次大熊猫出闸咱们再来过。
多多保重 |
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原帖由 江湖 于 11-6-2007 12:53 PM 发表
各位kawan megan, 今天开始我不再是kawan megan. 希望你们可以赚大钱。。
是福不是祸,是祸躲不过,救到精兵寥寥可数。可悲,可悲。。。
p/s to wtk75, 希望我能5年后重来
江湖兄,一直问自己,
为什么会赚钱,怎样会赚钱,
为什么会亏钱,怎样会亏钱,
问到自己不懂还可以问什么的时候,你就有答案可不可以买进了。
不用5年翻身,领悟的越快,就可以越快翻身。 |
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原帖由 khokhokho 于 11-6-2007 10:12 AM 发表
這麼快就认输了嗎?等下我看又有新聞出來了,講找到了那些新機器,原來是給人移去別的地點收藏起來了,造成市埸大亂,那你就會哭笑不得了。
苦笑苦笑 原帖由 khokhokho 于 11-6-2007 03:01 PM 发表
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原帖由 AAD 于 11-6-2007 02:51 PM 发表
I SURE THE MACHINE IS THERE... COZ MY COMPANY GOT SALE SOME OF THE MACHINE FOR THEM.... I EVEN MEET WITH THEY C.O.O BEFOR. AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
安~
你好,如果你們那里有存證的數據,希望能公開讓投資者知道,如果能做証人証明是有存在的,那會對這次的事件,他們要負起幾大的責任。
這是他們左上一次開會所講的話,並不可假造話題。
【中间有人提问董事长和财务顾问,megan打算如何降低目前的债务状况!
*董事们回答的是 we need to expand our product technology and product capacity
就如我们刚投资了200m 在blue-ray 和 hd dvd(我们必须走在科技的前端那样才能争取更大的margin)
董事长说megan选择投入blue-ray 和 hd dvd是因为目前没有多少家厂商在生产这类产品】。
這麼大的物件,不可能這樣容易移走,我想東西還是在那里:
另外一點,就是megan大事把老工人全部換新的,那麼造成這事件來講,新來的工人更不可能知道這些事情,唯有那早期的工人,我覺得應該會有人知道這機器是否存在,如果是被移走去另一地點,一定會有大量的物件,所以種種可能的事,這些機器應該還沒運出外地,最好的方法就是收藏在地下室里。
[ 本帖最后由 khokhokho 于 11-6-2007 03:12 PM 编辑 ]
如果這件事情,機器是存在的,那可能講,megan就要負責這件事情,明顯機器是被人收藏起來,現在想回來,為何那時候,megan要大量請人,連經理部的也照請? |
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