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发表于 25-7-2013 03:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
williamnkk81 发表于 25-7-2013 02:47 PM
哦哦。。 既然买了。。 那就守着。。。

暂时不敢再加,只好等到8月6日看业绩和股息咯,谢啦william哥
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发表于 25-7-2013 03:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
我买1.43,卖1.36
不然就卖了止损 本帖最后由 wislxom 于 25-7-2013 03:39 PM 编辑

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发表于 25-7-2013 04:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
wachin 发表于 25-7-2013 03:13 PM
暂时不敢再加,只好等到8月6日看业绩和股息咯,谢啦william哥

REIT 很直接的。。 看NAV和股息回报。。 如果还可以接受的那就可以等。。。
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发表于 25-7-2013 04:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
williamnkk81 发表于 25-7-2013 04:06 PM
REIT 很直接的。。 看NAV和股息回报。。 如果还可以接受的那就可以等。。。

william,NAV每年重估价的吗?
谢谢

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发表于 25-7-2013 04:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
wislxom 发表于 25-7-2013 04:34 PM
william,NAV每年重估价的吗?
谢谢

是的。。。 但要看公司是使用哪一个范式估价。。。。
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发表于 27-7-2013 01:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
wachin 发表于 25-7-2013 03:13 PM
暂时不敢再加,只好等到8月6日看业绩和股息咯,谢啦william哥

william哥,如果熊市会对产托有好处吗?
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发表于 27-7-2013 08:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
狂跌阿!!!一个月内从1.65 跌倒1.36。。。
是什么原因呢??
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发表于 27-7-2013 10:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
我一进那天就跌到现在。。不懂做么。。
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发表于 28-7-2013 01:53 AM | 显示全部楼层
http://www.nst.com.my/red/reits-a-downturn-coming-1.326655

REITs - a downturn coming?

MAINTAIN: Performance in the second half of 2013 is expected to represent solid opportunities

According to several recent reports, Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs) in Asia which were the rage last year now seem headed for a downturn, particularly in Southeast Asia and China.

Many Asian markets are suffering from the U.S. Federal Reserve‘s decision to reduce its asset purchases under quantitative easing, a move expected to hit emerging markets the most as investors returned to the developed markets in the West.  

“As a result of these fundamental changes, bonds yield has been creeping up in recent months. For example, the 10-year Malaysian Government Securities (MGS) has inched from 2.5 per cent back in end-December 2012 to 3.6 per cent as at end-June 2013. Taking Singapore as a precursor, the 10-year government bond yield has increased by as much as 120 basis points (bps) since the beginning of this year. The narrowing of spreads between risk-free assets and REITs are making REITs relatively less attractive compared to say one or two years ago. The impact has been made more apparent as REITs are trading at compressed yields,” explains Datuk Jeffrey Ng, Chief Executive Officer of Sunway REIT Management Sdn Bhd.

In Malaysia, it was also reported that REITs will probably come under pressure after a research firm warned a compression in yields could affect margins. According to the report, RHB Research had advised investors to reduce their exposure to local REITs and downgraded the sector from “neutral” to „underweight“. This came after property trusts in neighbouring Singapore had experienced a selldown in June, with the FST REIT falling by 15 per cent.

However, according to Asian Public Real Estate Association (APREA) Vice President, Datuk Stewart LaBrooy, REITs cannot be benchmarked against the performance of Southeast Asian countries as they only exist in Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore. “REITs performance in the second half of 2013 represents solid opportunities for long-term traders and advanced traders, while over in Japan, Tokyo Stock Exchange Real Estate Investment Trust (TSE REIT) index which reflects the whole sector, soared 9 per cent in April 2013. In fact, so far there have not been any massive losses,” notes LaBrooy.

Ng concurs. “Regardless of the current market downturn for Malaysia REITs, fundamentally the underlying assets are still performing and will continue to deliver sustainable growth based on the current economic outlook of the country.”

Arguing that REITs are more similar to bonds, in the sense that in order to maximise interest income, investors should consider a buy-and-hold strategy, LaBrooy continues, “As opposed to equities, REITs are long-hold stock, and do not have huge swings. Yes, there might be compressed yields, but the return is close to 17 per cent.”

In the meantime, due to falling Malaysia REIT prices, distribution yield has moved up. “Although this does not have any impact on the performance and yield on the existing properties, it will be more difficult to make yield accretive acquisitions. As a rule of thumb, assets yield should generally be higher than distribution yield in order for an acquisition to be yield accretive. Where costs of debts are going up, the property yields need to be higher too. In reality, property yields have been compressed, hence, it will be difficult for REIT managers to make yield accretive acquisitions. Going forward if property yield do not move up in relation to distribution yield, then the growth of M-REITs may be stifled as they have to rely mainly on organic growth on their existing portfolio of assets,” Ng predicts.

He also suggests that in an environment where interest rate is expected to rise in the near future, “REIT managers should proactively manage their debt profile either by committing only fixed debts or converting existing floating rates debts to fixed rate via instruments such as interest rates swap ahead of the interest rate cycle.”

Upcoming REITs
As regards the new REITs, the Sunway REIT CEO says, “The increased visibility and success of M-REITs in the region amongst international investors have definitely ignited the interest of developers, contractors, and logistics with large portfolio of property investments to jump into the bandwagon. Organisations that have expressed interest in forming their own REIT include Mah Sing, Dijaya, MRCB, Naim Holdings and Tiong Nam Holdings. On the other hand, Boustead Holdings Bhd plans to privatise its Islamic Plantation REIT, Al-Hadharah Boustead REIT with pricing at an attractive premium of 16.7 per cent over its net asset value (NAV) as at 31 March 2013.”

Likewise LaBrooy agrees by saying that there are a few REITs being mooted. As regards Al-Hadharah Boustead, he says, “With commodities becoming a favoured asset class, it does have a long-term upside.”

Ng however warns, “Under the current market environment where signs of interest rates are rising, M-REITs are no longer as attractive as before as an investment class. Sponsors who are looking to unlock their assets into the M-REIT may have to accept less attractive yield and raise lesser capital from the equity market to achieve their objective of recycling capital.”
Investing in REITs became popular in 2012 as it was seen as a sound and stable form of investment.
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发表于 28-7-2013 05:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
wachin 发表于 27-7-2013 01:04 PM
william哥,如果熊市会对产托有好处吗?

要看大势。。。 还有公司给的回报。。。。
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发表于 28-7-2013 05:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
kny_da_great 发表于 27-7-2013 08:57 PM
狂跌阿!!!一个月内从1.65 跌倒1.36。。。
是什么原因呢??

因为之前起了很多。。。。 要调整。。。
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发表于 28-7-2013 05:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
wachin 发表于 28-7-2013 01:53 AM
http://www.nst.com.my/red/reits-a-downturn-coming-1.326655

REITs - a downturn coming?

reit... 重要的是看 NVA。。。 DV。。gearing.....
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发表于 28-7-2013 05:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
williamnkk81 发表于 28-7-2013 05:26 PM
因为之前起了很多。。。。 要调整。。。

内部调整吗?不过我看KWSP 丢很多。。。可能是原因之一吧。。。
跌了也好。。。是时候进场了。。。
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发表于 28-7-2013 05:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
kny_da_great 发表于 28-7-2013 05:30 PM
内部调整吗?不过我看KWSP 丢很多。。。可能是原因之一吧。。。
跌了也好。。。是时候进场了。。。
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你可以看看股价和NAV的比较。。 负债回多嘛。。 还有股息有几多如果这个价格。。。
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发表于 28-7-2013 05:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
williamnkk81 发表于 28-7-2013 05:37 PM
你可以看看股价和NAV的比较。。 负债回多嘛。。 还有股息有几多如果这个价格。。。

好的。。我会去注意。。
so far 一直在看股价和股息而已。。还没有深入研究。。

小小声问下:REIT 的 NAV 在那里可以看到? 本帖最后由 kny_da_great 于 28-7-2013 05:46 PM 编辑

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发表于 28-7-2013 07:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
williamnkk81 发表于 28-7-2013 05:28 PM
reit... 重要的是看 NVA。。。 DV。。gearing.....

这个数据会高吗?不会看
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发表于 28-7-2013 07:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
williamnkk81 发表于 28-7-2013 05:28 PM
reit... 重要的是看 NVA。。。 DV。。gearing.....

DY大概5。5%而已,低过AMFIRST,STARREIT,TWREIT
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发表于 28-7-2013 07:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
负债蛮高的
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发表于 28-7-2013 11:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
kny_da_great 发表于 28-7-2013 05:44 PM
好的。。我会去注意。。
so far 一直在看股价和股息而已。。还没有深入研究。。

好好。。 加油。。。

NAV/NTA在年报或季报可以看到的。。 就是公司价值。。。
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发表于 29-7-2013 02:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
wachin 发表于 28-7-2013 07:41 PM
负债蛮高的

那么就要看看他的产业地段了。。。。。。。得空就看看pyramid........觉得旺不旺,才来决定买不买。。。。。
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