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第三季業績 (宣佈日期: 2008年02月04日)
截至2007年12月31日3個月，集團錄得全期虧損為4.72百萬港元，較去年同期虧損擴大． 無派息．
中期業績 (宣佈日期: 2007年11月06日)
截至2007年09月30日6個月，集團錄得全期虧損為6.11百萬港元，較去年同期虧損擴大． 無派息．
第一季業績 (宣佈日期: 2007年08月09日)
截至2007年06月30日3個月，集團錄得全期虧損為3百萬港元，較去年同期由盈轉虧． 無派息．
注明： 资料来源，转载 来自会员 bereal99
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原帖由 horo 于 16-4-2008 01:00 PM 发表 
请问这个和SUNSHINE有什么联系吗？？？
你在问这个贴 和sunshine 的联系， 还是对于“火龙果”那篇reply 的联系？？？
本来这个贴是关于 - emmax ,一个关于sunshine 产品的渠道公司
过后，变成。。。。。这样咯。。。 |
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原帖由 davidoff_seong 于 16-4-2008 12:53 PM 发表
小小分享：无限战友，发现这里能够给于我们兄弟一个的确不错的'教材'！！
我的无限领袖们都有在参考这里的回应，却有很正面的反应！！
原因无他，有问题的人 ...
文学也是一种美学，你写到。。。。。真的是很差
再提示你一下： 小品的魅力 --“会心一笑”
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好东西写一次就够了，写太多就变不美了 |
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原帖由 肥扬够帅 于 16-4-2008 04:01 PM 发表
好东西写一次就够了，写太多就变不美了
我也不打算再写了， 那个非常非常非常高级的领袖都看不懂得
就算咯
谢谢大家的捧场
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唉。slayer兄，踩到狗尾巴自然会被咬，现在你写到那么出汁了，
他们当然会写些人身攻击的东西来挑战你。。
奇怪了，我的问题没有人给到我想要的答案却一直在批评我的理解能力差。。
sunshine和Emmax是不是都同一个老板Mr.J？
什么叫做换汤不换药？ |
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我刚刚花了30分钟看看emcom 的财务资料
你看了，你会吓死， 这个就是 cash generator ???
http://www.wolun.com.cn/8220/inc_data/6.html
这个link 就是它的财政报告
我简单的说明一下：
流动性比率(倍) 0.9
速动比率(倍) 0.762
净营运资金比率(倍) -0.0664
边际经营业务盈利(%) -41.7317 -
边际利润(%) -45.2023
每股盈利/(每股亏损)(仙) 基本 -4.52
资产回报(%) -33.9927
股东权益回报(%) -228.354
中期业绩
截至年月日, 集团总的中期业绩盈利为 -6112.00百万港币,相对上期增长-78.56%.
公布日期 : 2007/09/30
业绩摘要
截至年月日: 2007/09/30
营业额 78954.00 港币(百万元)
盈利/(亏损) 扣除税项及少数股东权益后 -6112.00 港币(百万元)
升跌 (%) -78.56%
每股盈利/(每股亏损)
- 基本 港币(仙) -0.49
- 摊薄 港币(仙)
还有就是发现从2008年开始，股价0。17 ，到现在的0。07 ，大量的丢票
http://finance.cn.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=8220.HK
这个link 就是 今年的交易记录
为什么要花23k 来加入成为会员？？ 如果看好这个公司，直接买股票咯， 已经是历史新低，而且从2008年开始
历史新低经常被突破。。。。
这是一个资金缺乏，流动性很差的公司，我看了几个评论。。。没有人愿意写他的 target price 是多少， 哈哈哈阿
不要说cash generator , profit generator 都很难
而且。。。亏损那么大。。。。。。。
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不要在争吵了 想当年 SE 的贴 他们全部都差不多一样的回复 说 相信MR J P 他想的东西不是我们能够理解的 不能在活在现在的 模式 创新 什么的 还说他的一套是新的暂时还不能给人接受 。。。。
到现在 还不是一样能够 掉进沟渠 那个 什么 新公司 他们的 配套里面还是 需要SE 这家公司 里面的 服务或产品辅助 。。。。
也不多说 反正1年里面就能看到 很多人在这里消失 因为 他们今天说的 都不会在以后 实现
最好的人版 就是 那位天王兄 之前说的 和 现在的 到现在的新公司 又如何？！ |
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原帖由 曲清 于 16-4-2008 09:03 PM 发表 
不要在争吵了 想当年 SE 的贴 他们全部都差不多一样的回复 说 相信MR J P 他想的东西不是我们能够理解的 不能在活在现在的 模式 创新 什么的 还说他的一套是新的暂时还不能给人接受 。。。。
到现在 还不是一样能够 ...
我只是不想那么多人受伤害， 我的一个亲戚，玩 LB ，输掉30多千还有1年
输掉自己的尊严，人脉，还有自信。。。。。
如果是不好的，我们早一点揭发，那么大家都很好
如果是我们错，我们也只是拖延公司的发展脚步，公司也会赢得更加多人的信心
宁可慢，不可错，错一步，就很难回头的
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原帖由 slayer_boxer 于 16-4-2008 10:02 PM 发表
我只是不想那么多人受伤害， 我的一个亲戚，玩 LB ，输掉30多千还有1年
输掉自己的尊严，人脉，还有自信。。。。。
如果是不好的，我们早一点揭发，那么大家都很好
如果是我们错，我们也只是拖延公司的发 ...
其实你的心态很好，其实我也是SE的会员。但是我进去后，有发生问题时，
上线最爱说选择相信。你们外面的人问的问题比较直接，也好。
我也不希望公司有任何问题，我没有亏到钱，也赚了一点，但是不希望下线亏钱。 |
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啊啊啊   。。。
CARI 論壇又可以討論S.E.。。。是不是？
先轉載一些文章   。。。
http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=8&pg=14&ac=1604&print=1
Bank Negara Malaysia Investigates Mercantile Point Sdn Bhd and Sunshine Empire Sdn Bhd and its Related Companies
Bank Negara Malaysia is currently investigating Mercantile Point Sdn Bhd and Sunshine Empire Sdn Bhd and their related companies suspected of conducting illegal deposit taking and money laundering activities. These illegal activities are offences under subsection 25(1) Banking and Financial Institutions Act 1989 (BAFIA) and subsection 4(1) of Anti-Money Laundering and Anti-Terrorism Financing Act 2001 (AMLA) respectively.
The raids on Mercantile Point Sdn Bhd and its related companies were conducted on 2 April 2008 while the raids on Sunshine Empire Sdn Bhd and its related companies were conducted on 4 April 2008. These raids were conducted in premises of the companies around Kuala Lumpur following complaints received from members of the public. Relevant assets and documents of the companies were seized for purpose of investigation.
Members of the public are reminded not to place money or deposits with companies not licensed by Bank Negara Malaysia or to be involved in any get rich quick scheme to avoid losing their hard earned money. A list of all licensed institutions that accept deposits is available on Bank Negara Malaysia's website at www.bnm.gov.my. Members of the public should contact Bank Negara Malaysia for enquiries and further advice at the following address and telephone contact numbers:
Laman Informasi Nasihat dan Khidmat (BNMLINK)
(Walk-in Customer Service Centre)
Ground Floor, D Block,
Jalan Dato' Onn
50480 Kuala Lumpur
Telephone:
BNMTELELINK : 1-300-88-5465 or
Hotlines : 03 2691 0824 / 2692 6482 / 2698 2810 / 2694 2143
Fax: 03 2698 7467
E-mail: bnmtelelink@ bnm.gov.my
Bank Negara Malaysia
4 April 2008
© Bank Negara Malaysia, 2008. All rights reserved.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Story/STIStory_226364.html
April 12, 2008
Clients of MLM firm Sunshine Empire cry foul
Many now worry they may lose their principal sums after their rebates were discontinued
By Lorna Tan, Finance Correspondent
PEOPLE who have put money with the controversial multi-level marketing (MLM) firm Sunshine Empire are crying foul after their monthly cash rebates were discontinued.
Many are also now worried about losing their principal sums worth millions of dollars.
Several participants have told The Straits Times that they have been offered an option by their 'upline' - the person who recruited them to Sunshine - to cancel their accounts in Singapore and transfer them to a Hong Kong company called EmMax.
They have been told that once the Hong Kong business is built up, their rebates will start flowing again.
The Straits Times reported in November that the Commercial Affairs Department (CAD) was investigating Sunshine, as its activities appeared more like those of a pure investment scheme, for which it was not licensed.
The firm invites people to become 'merchants' of online goods, ranging from health supplements to electronics. Concerns centre on the fact that participants can potentially pocket big monthly 'rebates', which are not guaranteed, without ever buying or selling these goods.
The rebates are based on the participants' cash outlay, as well as Sunshine's global turnover.
Six Sunshine participants were applying for refunds when The Straits Times visited the company's headquarters in Toa Payoh yesterday.
One, who declined to be named, said he placed $12,500 in a gold plan in August. He received two monthly rebates of about $700 each, but these stopped once the CAD began its investigation.
Another participant, who also sought anonymity, said she was 'very worried' about losing her savings of $35,000, which she placed in four gold plans from November to early this year. Her rebates have ceased in recent months.
'If Sunshine is declared bankrupt, I will not get my money back,' she said. 'Can the authorities give direction on what to do?'
She will not transfer her accounts to Hong Kong, as she is unsure if the move is legal because of the ongoing investigation.
Sunshine adviser and spokesman James Phang denied any knowledge of the alleged Hong Kong option when he spoke to The Straits Times recently.
'I'm under investigation, so I'm not at liberty to reveal anything,' he said.
'To my knowledge, there were no meetings at Sunshine (about the Hong Kong option). People can come in and out. They can join any company. I have no control over the members. They are independent people.'
Mr Phang did confirm that Sunshine had stopped giving rebates in the past few months.
It was earlier reported that Mr Phang was linked to a failed investment scheme that resulted in 1,000 Singaporeans losing about $2 million.
The Consumers Association of Singapore's executive director, Mr Seah Seng Choon, cautioned participants against transferring their money to Hong Kong, as it would put their investment outside Singapore's jurisdiction.
'Recovering money from a foreign entity is always difficult if the company is unable to continue its operation here as a result of the current investigation,' he said.
Mr Seah advised consumers unprepared to stomach further risks to ask Sunshine for refunds - advice he also gave in November. He urged consumers to report to the police any new development or changes made by Sunshine.
Sunshine was placed on the Monetary Authority of Singapore's investor alert list in September. This means it is not allowed to conduct regulated activities.
It is reported to have attracted 20,000 clients since it set up in Singapore in July last year.
The police declined to comment yesterday, as its investigation was still ongoing.
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