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发表于 3-4-2016 10:40 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
江夏 发表于 2-4-2016 12:09 AM
總檢察長已經證明沒貪污了。

不如反對黨支持者努力攻讀法律,登上總檢察長之位,找證據提控首相吧。

只要“中立”才喜欢扮白痴跑去假装相信纳吉新委任的心腹AG是中立的。
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发表于 3-4-2016 10:41 AM | 显示全部楼层
Ecor1 发表于 2-4-2016 12:04 AM
就算是捐款也是死,因为是进入纳吉私人户口,所以足够构成贪污

而且没有身有粪,何必被发现后把钱还回去给沙地?

加上除了来之沙地,还有很多其他未名的款项。。。。

只有脑残的还继续支持纳吉

我也赞同.

明明是进入自己的私人户口, 这已证据确凿.

不管它目的是什么, 这已违法了.

还能把黑变白.

这什么法律?

根本就是在玩弄法律.

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 楼主| 发表于 3-4-2016 10:50 AM | 显示全部楼层
dogdogman 发表于 3-4-2016 10:40 AM
只要“中立”才喜欢扮白痴跑去假装相信纳吉新委任的心腹AG是中立的。

哦。
難道去相信網上不實的篡改資料和錯誤報導比較聰明。
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发表于 3-4-2016 10:59 AM | 显示全部楼层
江夏 发表于 3-4-2016 10:50 AM
哦。
難道去相信網上不實的篡改資料和錯誤報導比較聰明。

难道要去相信TV3,RTM和五毒散?在大马除了相信网络其他电台和报纸都不敢报道真相的。

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 楼主| 发表于 3-4-2016 11:04 AM | 显示全部楼层
chanbs 发表于 3-4-2016 10:59 AM
难道要去相信TV3,RTM和五毒散?在大马除了相信网络其他电台和报纸都不敢报道真相的。

也不,那是要等有參與調查的國家,各自的檢察官發出的調查證明,才能做準。
到那時候,檢察官手上的資料可信度就非常高。
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发表于 3-4-2016 12:08 PM | 显示全部楼层
江夏 发表于 3-4-2016 11:04 AM
也不,那是要等有參與調查的國家,各自的檢察官發出的調查證明,才能做準。
到那時候,檢察官手上的資料可信度就非常高。

呸!马华垃圾就爱自己说自己shiok!
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发表于 3-4-2016 12:12 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
a490920 发表于 3-4-2016 10:17 AM
纳吉说“那些人要怎么反GST我控制不了,也懒得去理,我坚持自己的想法”

那就让他尝试跟老板(人民)作对的后果是怎样的。
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发表于 3-4-2016 12:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
奸人当道
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发表于 3-4-2016 05:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
再拖下去,Tun Razak(可能发生在JlnTun Razak) 都会跳出来捉这个儿子的耳朵叫他跪榴莲向人民交代
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发表于 3-4-2016 07:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
江夏 发表于 3-4-2016 09:45 AM
洩漏出來的資料都是經過篡改的 (貼#52),
而且 WSJ 承認報導有偏差,整件事都是倒政府是陰謀。



来,先说说wsj承认了哪些报导有偏差?讲来听听下,不要自己讲自己爽

”泄露出来的资料都是篡改的“,这是什么一回事?讲来听听下,不要自己讲自己爽

要证明你的论据,麻烦提出credible一点的资料,不要写一两句废话当真理,自己讲自己爽。

学一下sarawak report如何论证自己的立场。

https://swk.global.ssl.fastly.ne ... iles-fact-or-fraud/

It is exactly a year since Sarawak Report detailed the information provided by the company PetroSaudi’s database, which exposed the fraud behind the so-called 1MDB PetroSaudi joint venture, through which US$1.83 billion dollars were removed from Malaysia’s public purse.
This is now corroborated by Malaysia’s own Central Bank Negara, which recently issued a formal demand that 1MDB repatriate the cash.
Our expose was based on a number of sources, besides the database, which covers the years 2009-11 and consists of over 330,000 emails, attachments and documents, many of them relating to deals with 1MDB.
We published a several of the most significant documents at that time, which is why the major scandal over 1MDB erupted and went on to spark a number of further official investigations into this and later deals by 1MDB, which in turn threw up more damning information over ensuing months – including the US$681 million that went into the PM’s personal account in 2013.
Unlike the changing stories coming out from 1MDB and their boss the Finance Minister, the narrative unveiled by all these separate sources and investigations has been glaringly consistent.
It all points to the conclusion that the so-called development fund has been used to pillage billions of public money from the state – the Swiss Attorney General last month said to his knowledge at least $4 billion had been nicked.
So, how have the actors in this matter responded? Predictably, they have accused Sarawak Report of having stolen and then forged or ‘tampered’ with all these thousands of documents, in order to provide the coherent and corroborated narrative that so far no one has managed to disprove in any way.
A mentally ill, hired bankrupt, Lester Melanyi, was paraded by the new UMNO communications boss, the housing minister Rahman Dahlan, to say that he knew this to be the case.  Lester was soon spectacularly de-bunked, however the Malaysian Government used this episode to block Sarawak Report and so it remains.
Meanwhile, the Malaysian Government, together with PetroSaudi, had placed enormous pressure on the Thai authorities to arrest the former director of PetroSaudi who had supplied the material.  He is now in a Bangkok prison for supposedly trying to extort cash from poor old PetroSaudi and has now issued statements saying he thinks that Sarawak Report is ‘tampering’ with what he now alleges were in fact innocent documents he was supposedly using to extort money with.
PetroSaudi, in their coup de gras even hired a struggling UK “cyber intelligence” firm called Protection Group International to send their flagship employee out to Bangkok (a retired chap from GCHQ called Brian Lord) who went on the record to the UMNO rag New Straits Times saying that his ‘expert’ team of cyber-sleuths had identified clear signs of tampering in the documents we had placed on line.
What the so-called “meta-data” Lord was referring to revealed (just right click and check) was merely that Xavier Justo had earlier opened one of the documents we had featured.  How does this amount to ‘tampering’ by Sarawak Report we asked?
Lord then went on to say in July of last year that his ‘expert teams’, employing the most advanced of cyber technologies would, under special ‘laboratory conditions’, examine the data they had retrieved from the arrested Mr Justo in order to prove how Sarawak Report had nefariously tampered with it in order, presumably, to give a false impression of wrong-doing in what his paymasters at PetroSaudi had informed him was a snow white deal.
Mr Lord explained to journalists that this process might take up to six months before his report could be produced.  In the meantime he delivered a lecture to Sarawak Report on what constituted good journalism in his professional view as a cyber intelligence spook – and committed several gross libels in the process.
As it is now well over the six months cited, what has Mr Lord’s lab team come up with?
So far, nothing.  Not one example of forgery, fraud or tampering has been produced as the 1MDB furore has raged explosively around the Prime Minister of Malaysia and the company of his employers PetroSaudi International.
Sarawak Report has been told by genuine cyber-experts that Protection Group International does not have a laboratory and is not considered to be technically particularly advanced in the field of data retrieval, being they are mainly ex-marines who specialise in bodyguard/surveillance activities.
However, nine months is a long time. Enough time to create a new parallel database that transforms a dodgy deal into an innocent affair?  That should not be too technically tricky, although with those 330,000 emails it would take some effort.
Indeed, Sarawak Report has found itself suddenly approached by a number of news organisations who are interested in seeing our raw material… it appears that PetroSaudi has been contacting certain senior news figures to say that they can now prove our own material is fraudulent.
How interesting.  Why has PetroSaudi not taken us to court, if this were the case, many months ago?
We have in fact always been willing to share this material and have done so.  Most news organisations however do not have the leisure to tackle raw source material… they generally prefer stories that take a couple of hours to write.
This may have changed now that PetroSaudi appears to be throwing down the gauntlet.  So SR is indeed making the material available to selected journalists and we are also now making our own 1st anniversary review of the Justo Files to lay out exactly how the deal worked out in detail.
The Justo Files – Day 1
Today, we are pulling out from the PetroSaudi database the unfolding detail of just how the company got together with Jho Low, who was plainly working with his side-kick Seet Li Lin and legal Girl Friday Tiffany Heah, for a ‘Big Boss” back in Malaysia.
These are the email trails available from August 2009 on the file, dating from just after the meeting on a hired yacht between Jho Low, Najib and the two PSI Directors, Prince Turki and Tarek Obaid, up until mid-September, when the deal started to get fully underway with the alerting of the staff at 1MDB (under CEO Shahrol Halmi) that there was an investment cooking, which they were expect to engage in.
This photo of the line up on the Tatoosh came from the PetroSaudi database – Jho Low left, Prince Turki 2nd left and Tarek Obaid 2nd right – on the yacht they hired and pretended belonged to the Sauid Prince!

Halmi was given just two weeks, from 15th September to the end of the month to get cracking and comply his end with the US$1 billion dollar ‘investment’.
He plainly had no trouble with this, although the 1MDB Board did – one good reason why the Auditor General’s report this week into the whole farce has been classified as an Official Secret by the Prime Minister!
From the database it is easy to tease out a relatively small number of email trails between the five main actors at PetroSaudi and 1MDB, which detail in plain black and white what they were up to.
One in particular, sent excitedly by Tarek Obaid (who at the time was dealing with threats from the bank to block his Amex Card) to Patrick Mahony early in the morning on September 14th seems to sum up the nature of the proceedings:
“Dude – on doit fermer avec eux, jho ma reveiller la, et ils sont prets a verser un milliard…………. D ici la fin du mois appelle quand tu te treveille je suis a londres
This translates:
“Dude  .  we have to close this with them, jho just woke me up , and they are ready to transfer one billion…… before the end of the month. Call when you wake up I am in London”
Sarawak Report defies PetroSaudi’s denials that this and the rest of our material is correct and we challenge them to take us to court to test the evidence.  Meanwhile, we invite readers to look in detail at the emails and documents of those first few days of the deal below:
Email trail 1 – Subject “Our Discussion”
The first set of emails relating to the PetroSaudi joint venture with 1MDB pops up on the database just days after that meeting on the hired yacht Tatoosh in August 2009.  Clearly Jho Low and Tarek Obaid had had a discussion and Tarek, who is not regarded as a great business brain by those around him, proceeded to introduce the British businessman Patrick Mahony to his contact, who is regarded as an astute deal-maker.
Mahony was a long-standing pal of Tarek’s by this time.  Clearly Tarek was a good contact in the Middle East, given his friendship with the fun-loving Prince Turki, a retired Saudi pilot.  He was at that time still working with the investment fund Ashmore (which had put some seed money into PetroSaudi’s only current venture, an oil well in Argentina), but had opened up an email account at PetroSaudi, to which he would soon move formally as a director, after apparently moonlighting from Ashmore over setting up this deal with 1MDB.
As this email trail shows, Tarek was introducing Patrick to Jho Low in order to move ahead with plans that had been discussed – the meeting took place in September 2009 in New York’s Time Warner Tower, where Jho Low had his mega apartment.
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 楼主| 发表于 3-4-2016 07:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
syncsw 发表于 3-4-2016 07:29 PM
来,先说说wsj承认了哪些报导有偏差?讲来听听下,不要自己讲自己爽

”泄露出来的资料都是篡改的“,这是什么一回事?讲来听听下,不要自己讲自己爽

要证明你的论据,麻烦提出credible一点的资料,不要写一两句废话当真理,自己讲自己爽。

学一下sarawak report如何论证自己的立场。

https://swk.global.ssl.fastly.net/2016/03/the-petrosaudi-files-fact-or-fraud/

It is exactly a year since Sarawak Report detailed the information provided by the company PetroSaudi’s database, which exposed the fraud behind the so-called 1MDB PetroSaudi joint venture, through which US$1.83 billion dollars were removed from Malaysia’s public purse.This is now corroborated by Malaysia’s own Central Bank Negara, which recently issued a formal demand that 1MDB repatriate the cash.Our expose was based on a number of sources, besides the database, which covers the years 2009-11 and consists of over 330,000 emails, attachments and documents, many of them relating to deals with 1MDB.We published a several of the most significant documents at that time, which is why the major scandal over 1MDB erupted and went on to spark a number of further official investigations into this and later deals by 1MDB, which in turn threw up more damning information over ensuing months – including the US$681 million that went into the PM’s personal account in 2013.Unlike the changing stories coming out from 1MDB and their boss the Finance Minister, the narrative unveiled by all these separate sources and investigations has been glaringly consistent.It all points to the conclusion that the so-called development fund has been used to pillage billions of public money from the state – the Swiss Attorney General last month said to his knowledge at least $4 billion had been nicked.So, how have the actors in this matter responded? Predictably, they have accused Sarawak Report of having stolen and then forged or ‘tampered’ with all these thousands of documents, in order to provide the coherent and  ...

你不自己爬貼就算了吧。

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发表于 3-4-2016 07:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
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syncsw 发表于 3-4-2016 07:29 PM
来,先说说wsj承认了哪些报导有偏差?讲来听听下,不要自己讲自己爽

”泄露出来的资料都是篡改的“,这是什么一回事?讲来听听下,不要自己讲自己爽

要证明你的论据,麻烦提出credible一点的资料,不要写一两句废话当真理,自己讲自己爽。

学一下sarawak report如何论证自己的立场。

https://swk.global.ssl.fastly.net/2016/03/the-petrosaudi-files-fact-or-fraud/

It is exactly a year since Sarawak Report detailed the information provided by the company PetroSaudi’s database, which exposed the fraud behind the so-called 1MDB PetroSaudi joint venture, through which US$1.83 billion dollars were removed from Malaysia’s public purse.This is now corroborated by Malaysia’s own Central Bank Negara, which recently issued a formal demand that 1MDB repatriate the cash.Our expose was based on a number of sources, besides the database, which covers the years 2009-11 and consists of over 330,000 emails, attachments and documents, many of them relating to deals with 1MDB.We published a several of the most significant documents at that time, which is why the major scandal over 1MDB erupted and went on to spark a number of further official investigations into this and later deals by 1MDB, which in turn threw up more damning information over ensuing months – including the US$681 million that went into the PM’s personal account in 2013.Unlike the changing stories coming out from 1MDB and their boss the Finance Minister, the narrative unveiled by all these separate sources and investigations has been glaringly consistent.It all points to the conclusion that the so-called development fund has been used to pillage billions of public money from the state – the Swiss Attorney General last month said to his knowledge at least $4 billion had been nicked.So, how have the actors in this matter responded? Predictably, they have accused Sarawak Report of having stolen and then forged or ‘tampered’ with all these thousands of documents, in order to provide the coherent and  ...

你吃懵了啊
跟他讲那么多搞屁啊
单单一条1MDB SRC的4000万和300多万欧洲shopping卡债就够了

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 楼主| 发表于 3-4-2016 07:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 3-4-2016 07:37 PM
你吃懵了啊
跟他讲那么多搞屁啊
单单一条1MDB SCR的4000万和300多万欧洲shopping卡债就够了

exactly,我全部都沒有看的。
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发表于 3-4-2016 07:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
江夏 发表于 3-4-2016 07:36 PM
你不自己爬貼就算了吧。


According to Xavier Andre Justo’s lawyer, the stolen documents that The Edge (and Sarawak Report) published were doctored or tampered with. This, therefore, changes the entire scenario because it would mean that this whole so-called expose was not about revealing the truth but to discredit Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak.

If what The Edge claims is true (which we do not know yet whether they are telling the truth or are lying) that means someone in the middle did the doctoring or tampering. And that can only be the broker or brokers.

Those brokers who acted on behalf of the seller and the buyer of that stolen data so far identified are Clare Rewcastle Brown of Sarawak Report, Tony Pua of DAP, and Sufi Yusof who works for Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad. One of those three or all three were those who most likely doctored or tampered with the data if it was not Justo or The Edge who did it.
http://www.malaysia-today.net/so ... tampered-after-all/
你在#52贴的我都看了,then?Does it prove anything?

我贴的sarawak report已经秒杀你的#52了。

So现在你有新的论点了吗?
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发表于 3-4-2016 07:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 3-4-2016 07:37 PM
你吃懵了啊
跟他讲那么多搞屁啊
单单一条1MDB SCR的4000万和300多万欧洲shopping卡债就够了



你有你讲你的SRC,我有我讲我的1MDB,没有冲突滴


最重要跟着自己的level看自己喜欢讲哪个,我个人比较喜欢讲billion billion上下的东西。
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发表于 3-4-2016 07:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
江夏 发表于 3-4-2016 07:40 PM
exactly,我全部都沒有看的。



马华余孽党个个都是不学无术的低B儿,当然不会看这些相对技术性的文章。

马华余孽党的本事只是用一个template到处去贴而已。
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 楼主| 发表于 3-4-2016 07:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
syncsw 发表于 3-4-2016 07:43 PM
你在#52贴的我都看了,then?Does it prove anything?

我贴的sarawak report已经秒杀你的#52了。

So现在你有新的论点了吗?

自從你的 swing 統計法被 bashlyner 破掉後,
我再也沒有興趣去看你那些好像很厲害的資料了。

請多多包涵。
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发表于 3-4-2016 07:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
江夏 发表于 3-4-2016 07:51 PM
自從你的 swing 統計法被 bashlyner 破掉後,
我再也沒有興趣去看你那些好像很厲害的資料了。

請多多包涵。



bashlyner破掉了什么swing?讲来听听下

下面的link给你一个方便。
http://cforum1.cari.com.my/forum ... ead&tid=3824072

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发表于 3-4-2016 08:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
花了 6千万  买 包包 买cincin
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发表于 3-4-2016 08:42 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
楼主脑残的
接受外国捐款代表要对人家的要求说yes
被殖民了还沾沾自喜

蠢人多 没看到像楼主那样蠢的
大概是卖华出来的
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