WSJ 現承認捐款來自沙地阿拉伯

江夏

magic26 发表于 2-4-2016 11:41 PM
不好意思，我说的是lz你。。

但明明是反對黨支持者信奉的寶典： WSJ ，承認自己報導有誤呀。

這不是變成你戾橫折曲麼？

sipeksong

江夏 发表于 2-4-2016 11:48 AM
任何事情可以光明正大，也可以暗中進行。

沙地國王的捐款是用來對付敏感的敵人穆斯林兄弟會，
諾曝光高調進行，不但打擊不到敵人，還會打草驚蛇，
豎立更極端合全面對戰的敵人，同時也害了大馬。

這個世界有表面的 “首相職”、“公務員”，同時在背後也有尊卑之分。
沙地國王的地位在回教界裡何等崇高，即使首相納吉在國內是公務員，
但在整個回教世界觀裡，納吉有如國王的小侄。
轉個角度去看西方國家，就看出猶太人主導的西方政府，
如何欲擒還縱，拖長戰爭來賣武器。

當然興風作浪的反對黨，可以大言不慚祗看表面咄咄逼人，
故意忽略 PAS 和 穆斯林兄弟會 在大馬的威脅，
因為反對黨祗為了反對而反對，從來不為人民著想。

我只懂（天下乌鸦一般黑）。。我是一个政治冷感的人。。我的理解是：小市民只会被这些政治人物利用没得分的。。不过小弟佩服你这篇文章。。死的都能说到活

江夏

sipeksong 发表于 3-4-2016 12:13 AM
我只懂（天下乌鸦一般黑）。。我是一个政治冷感的人。。我的理解是：小市民只会被这些政治人物利用没得分的。。不过小弟佩服你这篇文章。。死的都能说到活

星期四中午，我逛 KLCC 時，看見一名頭戴 beret 帽的綠色迷彩軍人，
扛着外形像 M16 來福槍快步走過『貢茶』茶攤。。。

IS 和各類恐怖組織在國內已經是 clear and present danger。

有許多打恐工作也不是每天能白日化曝光給全部人知道。。。。

追忆...

江夏 发表于 2-4-2016 12:09 AM
總檢察長已經證明沒貪污了。

不如反對黨支持者努力攻讀法律，登上總檢察長之位，找證據提控首相吧。

FXCK YOU，然后你去问总检察长我有没有FXUK过你，不然你就去攻读法律，登上總檢察長之位提控我吧，不过我看你应该是哭爹哭娘找版主投诉我了

sipeksong

江夏 发表于 3-4-2016 12:24 AM
星期四中午，我逛 KLCC 時，看見一名頭戴 beret 帽的綠色迷彩軍人，
扛着外形像 M16 來福槍快步走過『貢茶』茶攤。。。

IS 和各類恐怖組織在國內已經是 clear and present danger。

有許多打恐工作也不是每天能白日化曝光給全部人知道。。。。

有图有真相。。。没图你说什么都能咯。。星期4我这里下起红色的雨来《---你信吗？

johanson

江夏 发表于 2-4-2016 11:11 PM
到底是查 “貪污”  還是  “洗黑錢” ？ 你肯定是兩樣嗎？文章裡那段文字提到？

马华余孽不学无术，终于露馅了。

money laundering比较容易理解，指的是洗黑钱。

Embezzlement的意思指非法挪用公款[1]，也就是属于贪污罪行 [2]。

[1] Embezzlement is an act withholding assets for the purpose of conversion (theft) of such assets, by one or more persons to whom the assets were entrusted, either to be held or to be used for specific purposes. Embezzlement is a type of financial fraud, e.g. a lawyer might embezzle funds from the trust accounts of his or her clients; a financial advisor might embezzle the funds of investors; and a husband or a wife might embezzle funds from a bank account jointly held with the spouse.

Embezzlement usually is a premeditated crime performed methodically, with the embezzler taking precautions to conceal his or her activities of the criminal conversion of the property of another person, because the embezzlement is occurring without the knowledge or the consent of the affected person. Often it involves the trusted individual embezzling only a small proportion or fraction of the total of the funds or resources he/she receives or controls; in an attempt to minimize the risk of the detection of the misallocation of the funds or resources. When successful, embezzlements continue for years (or even decades) without detection. It is often only when a relatively large proportion of the funds are needed at one time; or they are called upon for another use; or, when a major institutional reorganization (the closing or moving of a plant or business office, or a merger/acquisition of a firm) requires the complete and independent accounting of all real and liquid assets; prior to, or concurrent with, the reorganization, that the victims realize the funds, savings, assets or other resources, are missing and that they have been duped by the embezzler.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embezzlement

[2] Political corruption is the use of powers by government officials for illegitimate private gain. An illegal act by an officeholder constitutes political corruption only if the act is directly related to their official duties, is done under color of law or involves trading in influence.
Forms of corruption vary, but include bribery, extortion, cronyism, nepotism, gombeenism, parochialism patronage, influence peddling, graft, and embezzlement. Corruption may facilitate criminal enterprise such as drug trafficking, money laundering, and human trafficking, though is not restricted to these activities. Misuse of government power for other purposes, such as repression of political opponents and general police brutality, is also considered political corruption.

A state of unrestrained political corruption is known as a kleptocracy, literally meaning "rule by thieves".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption

syncsw

江夏 发表于 2-4-2016 10:40 PM
洗
黑
錢

黑錢哪裡來？是幹哪種 “黑” 勾當賺到？數目多少？
黑錢洗白了嗎？數目又多少？首相納吉的戶口又是第幾個 layer？

。。。
勸你還是別看太多港劇啦，人說黑錢你就說黑錢。

黑錢哪裡來？是幹哪種 “黑” 勾當賺到？

黑钱从1MDB来。

黑勾当 = 利用职权舞弊和盗用公款

Authorities in Luxembourg and Singapore are investigating transactions involving 1Malaysia Development Bhd. as the Malaysian state fund faces expanding probes into allegations of embezzlement and money laundering.

黑錢洗白了嗎？

本来差不多都洗白了（中东捐款，电影公司等等），怎知道2015年杀出一个sarawak report和wsj，现在钱又黑掉去了。

數目又多少？

参考下图，这还只是鸡鸡拿到的而已，还没包括他的同谋jho low，Khadem al-Qubaisi,  Al-Husseiny等等分到几十上百亿的。

首相納吉的戶口又是第幾個 layer？

鸡鸡的户口有很多transactions，不同的transaction不同的layer，你是问哪个transaction？

syncsw

江夏 发表于 2-4-2016 11:11 PM
到底是查 “貪污”  還是  “洗黑錢” ？ 你肯定是兩樣嗎？文章裡那段文字提到？

贪污和洗黑钱都查。肯定是两样。下面的红字提到，embezzlement有利用职权舞弊的意思，白话点就是贪污，money laundering就是洗黑钱的意思。


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/ar ... -to-malaysia-s-1mdb

Authorities in Luxembourg and Singapore are investigating transactions involving 1Malaysia Development Bhd. as the Malaysian state fund faces expanding probes into allegations of embezzlement and money laundering.

johanson

magic26 发表于 2-4-2016 11:41 PM
不好意思，我说的是lz你。。

顺便帮你一下，纳吉去年说要起诉wsj，他的律师团还傻乎乎的要求对方解释，结果到现在不了了之。如果自己是清白的，就应该告上美国法院，来证明自己是清白无辜。

最近澳洲媒体播放纳吉贪污的纪录片，他也是不敢起诉啊，还现在躲起来。

syncsw

江夏 发表于 2-4-2016 11:13 PM
那麼雪州和檳城被反對黨執政，就不是民主制度的選舉得來的囉。

反对党在槟城和雪州分别得到67.5%和59.4%的票数，跟国阵的47%政权是不同的概念。

johanson

sipeksong 发表于 3-4-2016 12:13 AM
我只懂（天下乌鸦一般黑）。。我是一个政治冷感的人。。我的理解是：小市民只会被这些政治人物利用没得分的。。不过小弟佩服你这篇文章。。死的都能说到活

你很容易被这些网络枪手影响，他们最爱就是在扭曲事实，把错的都可以说成对的。

希望你能知道他们现在是替纳吉掩饰。

syncsw

江夏 发表于 3-4-2016 12:05 AM
但明明是反對黨支持者信奉的寶典： WSJ ，承認自己報導有誤呀。

這不是變成你戾橫折曲麼？

wsj承认哪些报导有误，讲来听一下？

johanson

江夏 发表于 3-4-2016 12:05 AM
但明明是反對黨支持者信奉的寶典： WSJ ，承認自己報導有誤呀。

這不是變成你戾橫折曲麼？

magic网友讲的是事实，只是敌不过你在扭曲事实。

纳吉去年说要起诉wsj，他的律师团还傻乎乎的要求对方解释，结果到现在不了了之。如果自己是清白的，就应该告上美国法院，来证明自己是清白无辜。

澳洲记者问纳吉的4亿美元有没有在口袋，结果他只是笑笑不答，后来他们还被警察抓。假如纳吉是清白的，为何不能干脆利落、光明磊落直接否认？

最近澳洲媒体播放纳吉贪污的纪录片，他也是不敢起诉啊，还现在躲起来。

kkk_0

江夏 发表于 2-4-2016 11:13 PM
那麼雪州和檳城被反對黨執政，就不是民主制度的選舉得來的囉。

如果是民主制度国家已被反对党执政。

TMNUTsucks

a490920 发表于 2-4-2016 11:50 PM
那么多马来人不相信行动党，那么说行动党不是无辜的对吗？？然后行动党应该要好好反省，要怪也只能怪自己？？
你说的只不过是个人的观点。

那些马来人要怎么想，我控制不了，也懒得去理。我坚持自己的想法。

江夏

johanson 发表于 3-4-2016 01:24 AM
马华余孽不学无术，终于露馅了。

money laundering比较容易理解，指的是洗黑钱。

Embezzlement的意思指非法挪用公款[1]，也就是属于贪污罪行 [2]。

[1] Embezzlement is an act withholding assets for the purpose of conversion (theft) of such assets, by one or more persons to whom the assets were entrusted, either to be held or to be used for specific purposes. Embezzlement is a type of financial fraud, e.g. a lawyer might embezzle funds from the trust accounts of his or her clients; a financial advisor might embezzle the funds of investors; and a husband or a wife might embezzle funds from a bank account jointly held with the spouse.

Embezzlement usually is a premeditated crime performed methodically, with the embezzler taking precautions to conceal his or her activities of the criminal conversion of the property of another person, because the embezzlement is occurring without the knowledge or the consent of the affected person. Often it involves the trusted individual embezzling only a small proportion or fraction of the total of the funds or resources he/she receives or controls; in an attempt to minimize the risk of the detection of the misallocation of the funds or resources. When successful, embezzlements continue for years (or even decades) without detection. It is often only when a relatively large proportion of the funds are needed at one time; or they are called upon for another use; or, when a major institutional reorganization (the closing or moving of a plant or business office, or a merger/acquisition of a firm) requires the complete and independent accounting of all real and liquid assets; prior to, or concurrent with, the reorganization, that the victims realize the funds, savings, assets or other resources, are missing and that they have been duped by the embezzler.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embezzlement

[2] Political corruption is the use of powers by government officials for illegitimate private gain. An illegal act by an officeholder c ...

謝謝做功課。
但洩漏出來的資料都是經過篡改的 （貼#52），
調查是必要，但還提控和定罪前，大眾就以篡改的資料入罪首相納吉，是不合理的。

江夏

syncsw 发表于 3-4-2016 01:25 AM
黑钱从1MDB来。

黑勾当 = 利用职权舞弊和盗用公款

Authorities in Luxembourg and Singapore are investigating transactions involving 1Malaysia Development Bhd. as the Malaysian state fund faces expanding probes into allegations of embezzlement and money laundering.

本来差不多都洗白了（中东捐款，电影公司等等），怎知道2015年杀出一个sarawak report和wsj，现在钱又黑掉去了。

参考下图，这还只是鸡鸡拿到的而已，还没包括他的同谋jho low，Khadem al-Qubaisi,  Al-Husseiny等等分到几十上百亿的。


鸡鸡的户口有很多transactions，不同的transaction不同的layer，你是问哪个transaction？

洩漏出來的資料都是經過篡改的 （貼#52），
而且 WSJ 承認報導有偏差，整件事都是倒政府是陰謀。

a490920

TMNUTsucks 发表于 3-4-2016 08:45 AM
那些马来人要怎么想，我控制不了，也懒得去理。我坚持自己的想法。

纳吉说“那些人要怎么反GST我控制不了，也懒得去理，我坚持自己的想法”

prince

烂菊：你帮我说个谎，我给你一亿美金！
很多人都很乐意。
钱来自哪里已经不重要，进入私人户口就是贿金，如果是投资金为何一开始不说？而且投资金应该进入国家的户口，为何是你的私人户口？
理由超级简单，没被发现就是贿金，被发现就说是投资金。

kkk_0

a490920 发表于 3-4-2016 10:17 AM
纳吉说“那些人要怎么反GST我控制不了，也懒得去理，我坚持自己的想法”

同样的人民坚持反国阵