民联和净选盟都拒绝承认本届大选成绩 安华号召周六槟城集会抗议史上最肮脏选举！

dontkillmee

爱林宜 发表于 6-5-2013 07:34 PM
点票处难道只有国阵的人？不是也有民联的人在场的吗？

在场的民联人被收买了？

为了护送magic箱有些地方连镇暴队都出来了，再加上TNB buff加成，玩奸玩出面

waja2000

Pas吉兰丹都宣誓州务大臣，林冠英明天也宣誓了， 基本来说不就算承认大选成绩了吗 ....

zac.selina

tanxinrong 发表于 6-5-2013 04:28 PM
输不起的安华....

要不是华人票, 你公正党剩多少席?????

请不要煽动种族主义，民联是由Dap, Pas, Pkr一同成立的。如果爸爸遇难，孩子可以不理吗？拜托你，成熟一点好吗，唇亡齿寒这么简单的道理你都不明白吗？

莱殊

waja2000 发表于 6-5-2013 07:37 PM
Pas吉兰丹都宣誓州务大臣，林冠英明天也宣誓了， 基本来说不就算承认大选成绩了吗 ....

有三四十个议席的选举舞弊出问题，这会影响其他的成绩。

dontkillmee

waja2000 发表于 6-5-2013 07:37 PM
Pas吉兰丹都宣誓州务大臣，林冠英明天也宣誓了， 基本来说不就算承认大选成绩了吗 ....

不承认超过40国席和若干州席竞选成绩，狗阵觉得民联胜出的议席有问题大可不承认竞选成绩来闹上法庭

ss24

waja2000 发表于 6-5-2013 07:37 PM
Pas吉兰丹都宣誓州务大臣，林冠英明天也宣誓了， 基本来说不就算承认大选成绩了吗 ....

看来算是了。。。

不过无论如何。。我会看净选盟如何说。。

zac.selina

weiwei318 发表于 6-5-2013 05:01 PM
如果太安静就没有新闻了

请你先了解状况，才恢复。马来西亚的未来不仅要靠华人的团结，还得靠马来与印度同胞的鼎力支持方可推翻腐败的国政。

小虫

爱林宜 发表于 6-5-2013 07:34 PM
点票处难道只有国阵的人？不是也有民联的人在场的吗？

在场的民联人被收买了？

警察，红卫兵，选委会不是民联的人，这个答案你满意吗？

tanxinrong

给那些还没梦醒的：

Read what this Malay lady has to say, it is thought provoking & action oriented :

So, BN is still in power...by Rosheen Fatima (Notes) on Monday, May 6, 2013 at 2:46am

I'm going to say something that most people are not going to like hearing, and I'm saying this because of the huge amount of black on my facebook wall.

Did you, any of you, really think that PR would sweep the elections? Put aside the dirty campaigning, and election tactics, did you really think PR would win?

From what i've seen over social media over the last few months, I thought that PR would win more seats. I believed that there would be a bigger change, I believed that the people would put into action what they were so vocal (online) about. But then I stopped myself and looked at the people in my social circles, the people I interact with online. We are a tiny, tiny middle class online savvy minority. It is because your social circle expected a certain outcome that you did too. But we do not represent the majority, and we don't even interact with them. Do you really expect to predict how they will vote? My father is Sarawakian, and I lived there for many years of my life. I lived in Kuching, but I know that in the interior and rural areas there are so many Malaysians who are not like you, who are not like me. Did I expect them to vote for PR, no. Did I expect them to vote for BN, yes. Why? Because that is all they see, that is what they know, the bribe money that they get means so much to them because they have close to nothing. And it's sad to say that that is the majority that we do not know.

So instead of turning your profile pictures black, if you really believe in change and the party you support, start planning now. Start the campaign to win the hearts of the people outside the urban areas, the people in the heartland. We know what's going on, they don't. Go talk to them.

And Malaysians, get to know the other Malaysia. Don't criticise them for voting the way they feel is right. Speak to them, get to know them, understand their plight, their needs, their wants. Then campaign to them, the urbanites are practically campaigning for you already.

And don't wait until a few months before the elections to campaign. Start now. Start fighting for measures to be put in place for a better electoral system now. Start making those in power more accountable for their actions. Start making your candidates accountable for the promises they made. Stop allowing mudslinging and racism and sexism to flourish in our government. You won't stand for it, make your candidate not stand for it. Make them fight for a proper democracy over the next 5 years. Then we can see a change. It doesn't happen overnight. it doesn't come with one day every five years. And it definitely won't come if you give up.

And make the change in you.
You want our politicians to stop being racist and sexist, then stop doing it yourself.
You want our government to stop being corrupt, then stop corruption in your own life.
You want cleanliness and transparency in our country, live clean, live transparent.
You are one of the atoms that make up Malaysia, don't ask for the changes that you don't live by.
Don't be a hypocrite and ask the people in power to be any different from you.

Take the small victories. No one ever said that the journey would be short or easy.
Did anyone ever think that PR would make inroads into the birthplace of UMNO, Johor? I didn't, but they did.
Did anyone expect 80% of registered voters to turn out to vote? I didn't, but they did.

In 2003, BN won 198 seats.
In 2008, BN won 140 seats.
In 2013, BN won (as of time of posting) 132 seats (with 6 seats uncalled).
So whatever it is, it is still a small victory for PR.
And now the question is what will the numbers be in 2018?

Gandhi took 32 years to fight for independence.
Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for 27 years in the fight to end apartheid.

And we've been trying for what 10 years?
Come on Malaysia, grow up.
Yes, you're sad, but a fight is a fight, it goes on.

Democracy doesn't happen overnight, democracy is a journey.
Just because there are hurdles and obstacles in your way doesn't mean you give up.
You train for the next race.
And maybe that one you'll win.

tanxinrong

Mun Foong

要说一些你们不爱听的东西，我还是希望你们看下去... 也希望大家如果不懂不要乱share乱传乱说，等下被人笑没常识...

昨天我帮公正党监票兼sukarelawan，在外面顾着算票员keselamatan到最后escort都做的我来说，加票箱是不可能发生的...

一个区有几个票箱其实已经fix好的，好像我负责这一区，23个JDM，3个saluran，1国1州，共138箱，加postal 4个箱共142... 送到的时候，如果SPR真的那么白痴敢敢拿出第143箱，候选人的lawyer如果不做工的话，连候选人也是白痴的...

当然，半路换掉票箱不是不可能，不过送过去之前已经签好borang 14，就是双方确认算票结果，双方候选人代表会拿一个大家都签好的form，如果PACA忘记拿carbon copy，去到机票中心，赢变输，输变赢就要吃自己了，别的我不懂，我那边就一个saluran的忘记拿，还好跑回去跟Ketua拿的时候，KTM也steady给他，我不敢想象全马有几个区的人“忘记”拿...

送票箱去计票中心的时候，其实是用KTM的私家车的，然后police会escort去，然后我们问我们可以以候选人代表的身份跟尾去吗？你猜警察说什么？他说，macam ini lagi baik，因为我们晚了(因为算票的时候有点dispute,加上我们学校离总计票中心很远，大概一个小时路程，送到去大概11点多了)，很多在那边的penyokong会以为我们后面加票然后打我们的，对了，你可以叫多几个Keadilan和PAS的人一起跟吗？如果我们被围攻你帮忙跟penyokong解释... 他们飙很快，怕死我们最后一个送到，到最后安全送到，我还笑那个警察多心了，结果过后看到那么多youtube video人民包围那个送票车我真的无语了...

停电的我更没话说，那么多年同一招，他妈的你们不会带手电筒啊？我这边你知道发生什么事吗？交待了几个负责算票的counting agent记得带torch light，结果猜猜看几个带来了？一个都没有！我也没怪他们，义工团team leader花了那么多钱在请我们吃饭上面，为什么不花几块钱买几支手电筒或portable lamp交给每个算票员?还好我们这里发电厂quality比较好，不会停电，不然算到一半停电被人换票能怪谁？怪自己啦！

前几天，我有跟候选人的PA反映了一些弱点，请PKR和PAS的志工向DAP取经... 论规划，论经验，DAP做得比PKR好太多太多了... 结果他说，只要没有鬼，赢定！专注在keselamat team去抓鬼好了，结果鬼就抓了那么十几个，马来志工回来feedback说马来乡村的反应有点冷淡，猜猜我们的头(华人)说什么？tak apa, kita banyak support dari taman orang cina... 我看得出当时那个马来人一脸无语... 那个马来同志有后面跟我说，很多人笑他笨，Anwar itu janji saja, tapi Najib sudah bayar cash, bodoh yang percaya sama yang janji dari yang bagi...

当我们沉醉在关子角的ceramah的ubah声时，有没有人看到其实马来人的ubah风气其实并没有那么强烈？最后输了，才来乖选举不公？

一个选区60000多票，如果大家有稍微关注马来区的话，多数票就会是landslide，多多bangla都没有用！举个例子，就算华人一面倒支持火箭，马来人只要有一半支持国阵，大家50:50，不用做很多东西，如果大家肯争取到多1.6%或者1000张马来人票，国阵少1000，民联多1000，会变成2000票差距，就能够平衡bangla票了，那一个区有抓到1000个bangla的你现在跟我讲...

到最后要说，虽然的确，我们的选举存在很多不公，可是同时，请大家反省一下自己，尤其是公正党的...

johnsheng

我也不承认 舞弊太多 赢的不光彩
期待华哥拿出证据来告外劳垃圾哥

你介意吗

tanxinrong 发表于 6-5-2013 04:52 PM
所以林吉祥不是人！

因为他承认！

你的立场是什么？一会儿说安华输不起；一会儿又说林吉祥不是人。。。 你懂政治吗？请你不要用自己个人主观的立场为他人表态他们的想法！还有请你不要再挑起种族课题的言论！不论是华人或是马来人，我们都是马来西亚人， 现在最重要的是大家要团结起来捍卫我们的国家。多数人认为本届大选成绩。。。。！团结！团结！团结！

干云

johnsheng 发表于 6-5-2013 08:44 PM
我也不承认 舞弊太多 赢的不光彩
期待华哥拿出证据来告外劳垃圾哥{:pra ...

我们都不承认！

干云

zac.selina 发表于 6-5-2013 07:45 PM
请你先了解状况，才恢复。马来西亚的未来不仅要靠华人的团结，还得靠马来与印度同胞的鼎力支持方可推翻腐 ...

这是事实，我们要团结在一起。

.jennifer.

SagitCirrus 发表于 6-5-2013 06:00 PM
星期三抗议有什么用？

目的是？ 重新投票 还是 算票？

就是因为有你这种人这么消极地泼冷水扯后腿所以到现在都还革命不成！
而你这种人跟我们最大的不同就是每次我们革命不成我们都还是不放弃不气馁再起义，期待有一天有一朝革命成功！

SagitCirrus

.jennifer. 发表于 7-5-2013 08:08 AM
就是因为有你这种人这么消极地泼冷水扯后腿所以到现在都还革命不成！
而你这种人跟我们最大的不同就是每 ...

我只是好好地问个为什么？原因是什么？目的是什么？

你那么激动做么？
就是因为有你这种人，不用脑，只会喊叫，能做到什么？

summer420

tanxinrong 发表于 6-5-2013 04:47 PM
至少比散播谣言强....到底居心何在?

这样到底有没有停电？到底黄德是真输还是被整输？

风尘之魂

tanxinrong 发表于 6-5-2013 04:47 PM
至少比散播谣言强....到底居心何在?

不要再搞种族分化游戏，你的居心和在？
什么华人票，马来人票？
你这样的人存在，大马才会再次发生513。

雷克斯R

很多都是聽說, 有實質的證據才是最重要才可以上訴

.jennifer.

SagitCirrus 发表于 7-5-2013 09:47 AM
我只是好好地问个为什么？原因是什么？目的是什么？

你那么激动做么？

你哪里听来的喊叫？你的电脑好发达。。。
那请问你又做到什么？拿冷水给我们冲凉，然后叫我们认输吧？
还有你已经人身攻击了，不想跟你争辩谁用不用脑，就因为跟你一样是理智派的，才会希望有所行动，不是有所冲动，
想一下bersih背后的精神，世界各地许多的示威抗议游行有多少成功过？我知道没有多少，但是却是少数能反映及表达人民不满的直接管道，
你的意见又是什么？？