【讨论区】 THIEF ＊新

智炜

打zakum都没酱lag啦....
在cc就不会...

RB26DETT

我在hidden-street看到一個BanditSin的配點：
lvl 10/ 1 Lucky 7 [1]
lvl 11/ 3 Lucky 7 [4]
lvl 12/ 3 Lucky 7 [7]
lvl 13/ 3 Lucky 7 [10]
lvl 14/ 3 Nimble Body [3]
lvl 15/ 3 Keen Eyes [3]
lvl 16/ 3 Keen Eyes [3]
lvl 17/ 2 Keen Eyes [8 MAXED] 1 Lucky 7 [11]
lvl 18/ 3 Lucky 7[14]
lvl 19/ 3 Lucky 7[17]
lvl 20/ 2 Lucky 7 [19] 1 Disorder [1]
lvl 21/ 2 Disorder [3] 1 Dark Sight [1]
lvl 22/ 3 Dark Sight [4]
lvl 23/ 3 Dark Sight [7]
lvl 24/ 3 Double Stab [3]
lvl 25/ 3 Double Stab [6]
lvl 26/ 3 Double Stab [9]
lvl 27/ 3 Double Stab [12]
lvl 28/ 3 Double Stab [15]
lvl 29/ 3 Double Stab [18]
lvl 30/ 2 Double Stab [20 MAXED] 1 Lucky [20 MAXED]
這和MAX Nimble Body的BanditSin哪一個好？Double Stab以後有用処嗎？

智炜

谁有octopus legs啊...因为我要做Quest...
因为我去dungeon打的话...
没两下就死...

智炜

lvl 21做pq,做到lvl30吗？

MindTeaser

原帖由 RB26DETT 于 29/7/2006 04:23 PM 发表
我在hidden-street看到一個BanditSin的配點：
lvl 10/ 1 Lucky 7
lvl 11/ 3 Lucky 7
lvl 12/ 3 Lucky 7
lvl 13/ 3 Lucky 7
lvl 14/ 3 Nimble Body
lvl 15/ 3 Keen Eyes
lvl 16/ 3 Keen Eyes
lvl 1 ...

这 guide 很烂...
不要学
呵呵呵
以后 double stab 都没什么用了

RB26DETT

哈哈，是嗎？謝謝提醒

幻黑幻影

原帖由 智炜 于 30-7-2006 06:06 PM 发表
lvl 21做pq,做到lvl30吗？

我的mage就是lv21做pq做到lv31的

智炜

原帖由 MindTeaser 于 30-7-2006 09:55 PM 发表

这 guide 很烂...
不要学
呵呵呵
以后 double stab 都没什么用了

啊？
我的thief加double stab的哦(转bandit)

bubu_joel

原帖由 智炜 于 31-7-2006 11:00 AM 发表

啊？
我的thief加double stab的哦(转bandit)

你是转bandit的当然没问题
上面那个是给Banditsin的。。

ayusoon

请问chief bandit 到底要怎样加它的skill point 呢
我从asiasoft 拿的资料
觉得有些怪怪勒～～

Assaulter Build

level / skills
70 / 1 assaulter
71 / 3 assaulter / 1 meso explosion
72 / 6 assaulter / 1 meso explosion
73 / 9 assaulter / 1 meso explosion
74 / 12 assaulter / 1 meso explosion
75 / 15 assaulter / 1 meso explosion
76 / 18 assaulter / 1 meso explosion
77 / 21 assaulter / 1 meso explosion
78 / 24 assaulter / 1 meso explosion
79 / 27 assaulter / 1 meso explosion
80 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion [max assaulter]
81 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra
82 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 3 meso guard
83 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 1 theives [max meso guard]
84 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 4 theives
85 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 7 theives
86 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 10 theives
87 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 12 theives [save 1]
88 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 12 theives [save 4]
89 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 18 theives [save 1]
90 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 18 theives [save 4]
91 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 24 theives [save 1]
92 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 24 theives [save 4]
93 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 30 theives [max theives]
94 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 8 meso guard
95 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 11 meso guard
96 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 14 meso guard
97 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 17 meso guard
98 / 30 assaulter / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard

Comments:

one of the most popular builds, 1 ME is optional

Other variations:

Hyrid Build:
- stopping assaulter at lvl 10 or 20 to up thieves. consider putting 5pts into meso guard earlier to save pots. since levels 1-20 assaulter add 10% damage per point while levels 20-30 assaulter add 5% damage per point.


Pros:

- you can hunt high wdef monsters such as lycan, ypp and ww easier to earn $.

- by our current maps, other then mixed golems, we do not have a lot of maps have mobs for us to spam thieves on so assaulter 1st sounds reasonable.

- see Assaulter Skill Description

Cons:

- assaulter is not suitable for spamming


Recommended Training Grounds:

lvl 70-80 jr.yeti, hectors, zombie, wraiths [ww for training/hunting]
lvl 80-90 zombie [lycan for training/hunting]
lvl 9x+ bains, sotong


Thieves Build

level / skills
70 / 1 assaulter
71 / 1 assaulter / 2 theives / 1 meso explosion
72 / 1 assaulter / 5 theives / 1 meso explosion
73 / 1 assaulter / 8 theives / 1 meso explosion
74 / 1 assaulter / 11 theives / 1 meso explosion
75 / 1 assaulter / 12 theives / 1 meso explosion [save 2]
76 / 1 assaulter / 12 theives / 1 meso explosion [save 5]
77 / 1 assaulter / 18 theives / 1 meso explosion [save 2]
78 / 1 assaulter / 18 theives / 1 meso explosion [save 5]
79 / 1 assaulter / 24 theives / 1 meso explosion [save 2]
80 / 1 assaulter / 29 theives / 1 meso explosion
81 / 1 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 2 chakra [max theives]
82 / 1 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 2 meso guard
83 / 1 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard
84 / 1 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 8 meso guard
85 / 1 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 11 meso guard
86 / 1 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 14 meso guard
87 / 1 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 17 meso guard
88 / 1 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard [max meso guard]
89 / 4 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard
90 / 7 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard
91 / 10 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard
92 / 13 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard
93 / 16 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard
94 / 19 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard
95 / 22 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard
96 / 25 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard
97 / 28 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard
98 / 30 assaulter / 30 theives / 1 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 20 meso guard / 1 to any others [max assaulter]

Comments:

Another loved build. If you love AOE then this is the way to go. 1 assaulter for the tele. the reason y max meso guard 1st is to train longer w/o having to keep recasting guard.

at lvl8x zombs are still decent exp if u can 1hitko them.

Other variations:

- stopping meso guard at 5pts to max assaulter 1st

- stopping thieves at 18pts to up meso guard or assaulter 1st, since it is hard to get more than 4 monsters with our present maps.. ur preference

Pros:

- AOE = more fun

- faster killing rate generally when more than 2 monsters r present

- theives is a v fast AOE spamming skill

Cons:

- harder to hunt w/o assaulter

- inconsistent radius of thieves


Recommended Training Grounds:

lvl 70-80 hectors, cold eyes (sant2). mixed golems
lvl 80-90 zombs (1hitko with sb), mixed golems, ypp
mid 9x+ bains, sotongs


MESO EXPLOSION Build (Meso explosion roxzorx =D)

level / skills

70 / 1 meso explosion
71 / 1 pickpocket / 3 meso explosion
72 / 3 pickpocket / 4 meso explosion
73 / 3 pickpocket / 7 meso explosion
74 / 4 pickpocket / 9 meso explosion
75 / 5 pickpocket / 11 meso explosion
76 / 6 pickpocket / 13 meso explosion
77 / 6 pickpocket / 16 meso explosion
78 / 6 pickpocket / 16 meso explosion / 3 charka
79 / 6 pickpocket / 16 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 3 meso guard
80 / 6 pickpocket / 17 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard
81 / 7 pickpocket / 19 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard
82 / 7 pickpocket / 21 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard
83 / 8 pickpocket / 23 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard
84 / 11 pickpocket / 23 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard
85 / 11 pickpocket / 26 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard
86 / 14 pickpocket / 26 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard
87 / 16 pickpocket / 26 meso explosion / 3 chakra / 5 meso guard / 1 to others
88++ / 3 to all others of ur choice (preferably max either thieves or assaulter)


Comments: (TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK T_T)

reason why pickpocket is recommended to stop at 16pts becos we are trying to make use of the max duration, while ME 26pts 'explodes up to 20' and the mastery after lvl 23 increases by 1% instead of 2% at lower lvls. 4pts frm pickpocket + 4 pts from ME = 8pts saved so that u can up other important skills earlier. u can choose to max meso explosion if u feel 4% increase in mastery from 26-30pts makes a big difference.


Pros:

- FUN (for ME lovers)
- powerful mob finishing skill
- mass numbers of dmg

Cons:

- slow setup (having to spend time littering 1st; monsters have to be positioned over the piles of coins so that the detonation will not miss)
- based on the above build the dmg is more practical around lvl 8x onwards (u have only SB)
- other important skills are not maxed 1st
- ME not known to be an effective leveling skill yet


DISCLAIMER OF MESO EXPLOSION BUILD: this build is still very much in its research/trial stage and it is not recommended for anyone to follow.

most players will follow the normal assaulter or theives builds. for ME lovers and the adventurous, try the ME build at ur own risk! for assaulter and theives build the current maps we have they both have a practical use in training while ME is not known to be an effective leveling skill yet. i hope chief bandits with maxed ME as their 1st skill are willing to share their views with us here.

i would say the meso explosion build is some how like a pure poison wizard; one would play it mainly for the fun part of it, for a challenge, or simply just to be different  


After Level 98 For a Normal Build Chief Bandit?

level / skill
98 / 2 meso explosion
99 / 4 meso explosion / 1 pick pocket
100 / 7 meso explosion / 1 pick pocket
101 / 10 meso explosion / 1 pick pocket
102 / 12 meso explosion / 2 pick pocket
103 / 12 meso explosion / 5 pick pocket
104 / 12 meso explosion / 8 pick pocket
105 / 15 meso explosion / 8 pick pocket
106 / 18 meso explosion / 8 pick pocket
107 / 21 meso explosion / 8 pick pocket
108 / 24 meso explosion / 8 pick pocket
109 / 24 meso explosion / 11 pick pocket
110 / 24 meso explosion / 14 pick pocket
111 / 24 meso explosion / 17 pick pocket
112 / 24 meso explosion / 20 pick pocket [max pick pocket]
113 / 27 meso explosion / 20 pick pocket
114 / 30 meso explosion / 20 pick pocket [max meso explosion]




Credits:
Rick, Texel, and especially mazzilliu from sleepywood forum


Dedicated to:
my secondary sch/poly pals,
and my dear female player of Qoo


Chief Bandit Related Links:
3rd Job Advancement 2nd Part (Qns & Ans)
Thief 3rd Job Guide by IDreamI
AzrealDave Lvl103 Chief Bandit Video

Landon

有谁知道最后6个点要升什么吗？
我的2nd job招升完了(maxed)，除了steal(lv3)后悔升它....
还有我的dark sight(maxed)....
只剩下disorder(lv3),steal(lv3).
要升哪一个呢？
快点回复，谢谢~

MindTeaser

steal 吧...
属于娱乐性 skill
没有事做就玩 steal
呵呵呵

Landon

但是很多人讲steal没有的....

智炜

都讲了是娱乐性 skill....
只是娱乐...
有时蛮有用^^

Landon

我知道是娱乐性...
但是有很多人升了steal后，就后悔了..
还有别人的意见吗？

~无名剑~syiling

原帖由 Landon 于 7-8-2006 09:41 PM 发表
我知道是娱乐性...
但是有很多人升了steal后，就后悔了..
还有别人的意见吗？

两个都没什麽分别。。。steal 废的。。。disorder 如果你练功有用的话不妨加上去吧。。。

给我的话是选disorder .... 不过一切看你咯。。。没什麽分别。。

RB26DETT

steal只是在ludi pq比較有用吧了

Fusion^^

原帖由 Landon 于 7-8-2006 09:41 PM 发表
我知道是娱乐性...
但是有很多人升了steal后，就后悔了..
还有别人的意见吗？

差点忘料有这个Skill

chai89

str 5
dex 25
int 4
luk 35

这是我现在的stat..才lvl10。还没换job.我可以做bandit/banditsin/assasin?可以给点意见吗？怎样加skill?

~无名剑~syiling

原帖由 chai89 于 13-8-2006 08:06 PM 发表
str 5
dex 25
int 4
luk 35

这是我现在的stat..才lvl10。还没换job.我可以做bandit/banditsin/assasin?可以给点意见吗？怎样加skill?

bandit/banditsin/assasin  全都可以做。。

不过你要现在决定你要做  bandit/banditsin/assasin ？？
然后才 up skill point ... 以防加错


详情可以爬爬贴看些前辈的建议