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新题：
(1) I am late again, haven't I?
(2) If anybody calls, tell her to leave a massage. |
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新题：
(1) I am late again, haven't I?
(2) If anybody calls, tell her to leave a massage.
风满楼 发表于 27-1-2010 12:38 AM 
1. I am late again, aren't I?
2. If anybody calls me, tell him/her to leave a message. |
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新题：
(1) I am late again, haven't I?
(2) If anybody calls, tell her to leave a massage.
风满楼 发表于 27-1-2010 01:38 AM
胖龜也來學習看看
(1) I am late again, am I?
(2) If anybody call me, tell them to leave a massage
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本帖最后由 胖龜 于 27-1-2010 04:29 AM 编辑
回复 speakingringo
想学好发音的人，往往会严重忽略“听”的辅助作用
他们会以为，我在学讲，为 ...
风满楼 发表于 25-1-2010 03:52 PM
胖龜百分之一萬的贊同這種方法
因為胖龜的韓文與日文能力就是這樣聽出效果來的
結論是潛意識的威力
不容忽視
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說真的離開校園以后，很多人都不太care singular,plural 這些基本的grammar，尤其是普通談話的。。
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Summer_kaze 发表于 26-1-2010 08:47 PM 
这样好像在说：求学时很留意语法，基本语法很好，离校后就变差了....
我很难认同，人是习惯性动物，怎么会那么轻易就从“会”变成“不会”?
其实国中并不太注重语法，写作只要说到重点就可以得分，语法一团糟也无所谓，试问在这种环境下，还有谁会去管它语法对不对？
所以，我的认知是，求学时就不留意语法，语法搞不好，离校后这种情况也很理所当然地延续下去... |
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本帖最后由 风满楼 于 27-1-2010 10:29 AM 编辑
胖龜百分之一萬的贊同這種方法
因為胖龜的韓文與日文能力就是這樣聽出效果來的
結論是潛意識的威力
不 ...
胖龜 发表于 27-1-2010 03:26 AM
我中学时期曾打算到日本留学，所以开始学日语，就是用这种方法，从听和口音开始...
我不晓得我学到的“东京口音”有多完美，但遇到日本人听到我说日语（简单的一般会话）时，
都很惊讶，开始时不相信我不懂日语，问我为什么会说得那么标准......其实我就只会那些简单的东西......
我们都有自然的模范能力，小时候我们就是靠这个能力学好母语的，
很多人以为长大了，就渐渐失去这个能力，所以第二语言学不好，
其实不然，这种能力依然存在，只是我们急于求成，自作聪明，开始寻找捷径而违反了学习语言的自然规律，结果欲速不达...
第二或第三语言学不好，其实是人为的因素造成的。
我们都是不健全的教育制度下的受害者，为了考试，为了得到“A”，
很多“聪明”的学生，“怕输”的父母和“奸商”创办的补习班很自然地就被逼寻找捷径...例如，
“聪明”的学生会说，“发音又没考，不重要，学来做什么？”，“学校有考的，我才学...”
“怕输”的父母要看到的不是孩子懂多少，而是得到几个“A”，分数有没有超过90分...
“奸商”创办的补习班（有者自称“教育集团” ）就使出浑身解数，满足他们么这些需求...
“怕输”的父母和“奸商”创办的补习班狼狈为奸的结果，就是上演“考题外泄”这些震撼人心的“悲剧”....
到最后，谁将成为真正的受害者？
哈哈...跑题了...
学习语言应该从发音开始，我们是靠“声音”来记忆语言词汇的，
如果我问你，“苹果”英文或日文是什么？
你脑海中浮现的是那个概念的“音” /'æ pl/ 或 ringo
我们小的时候不是先听了好几年才开始说的吗？
其实我们可以重复这种方法来学习其他的语言...
多听，培养该学习语言的语感，正确标准的发音就会自然的到手... |
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本帖最后由 风满楼 于 27-1-2010 09:37 AM 编辑
潇湘夜雨
1. I am late again, aren't I?
2. If anybody calls me, tell him/her to leave a message.
胖龟
(1) I am late again, am I?
(2) If anybody call me, tell them to leave a massage
正解：
(1) I am late again, aren't I?
(haven't I => aren't I)
Question Tags:
He is..., isn't he?
They are..., aren't they?
She was..., wasn't she?
You were..., weren't you?
可是，英语没有 amn't 这个字，amn't 该如何发音？
所以不能说：
I am..., amn't I?
可能以前的语法学家就想出一个方法，用 aren't 来取代，所以就
I am..., aren't I?
(2) If anybody calls, tell them to leave a message.
(her => them, massage => message*, massage* 是马杀鸡/按摩 ）
they, them, their 除了有“他们（的）”一般的定义外，还有第二个定义：
当你不知道某个人的性别，或避免说“他（的）”或“她（的）”时，可以使用 they, them 或 their
通常和 anybody, somebody, nobody, everybody 等这些字连用：
Someone left their cellphone behind.
Everybody thinks they're important.
*message 的发音： /'me sɪdʒ/
*massage 的发音：
英式： /'mæ sɑːdʒ/
美式： /mə 'sɑːdʒ/
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新题：
(1) I want to live for hundred years.
(2) A 8-year-old boy was injured in a run-and-hit crash Tuesday afternoon. |
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本帖最后由 skyong73 于 27-1-2010 01:40 PM 编辑
新题：
(1) I want to live for hundred years.
(2) A 8-year-old boy was injured in a run-and-hit ...
风满楼 发表于 27-1-2010 01:10 PM 
1) I want to live for a hundred year.
2) A 8-year-old boy was injured in a hit-and-run on Tuesday afternoon. |
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1) I want to live for a hundred year.
2) A 8-year-old boy was injured in a hit-and-run on Tu ...
skyong73 发表于 27-1-2010 01:38 PM
两题都还有错误。 |
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新题：
(1) I want to live for hundred years.
(2) A 8-year-old boy was injured in a run-and-hit ...
风满楼 发表于 27-1-2010 01:10 PM
1. I want to live a hundred years.
2. An 8-year-old boy was injured in a hit-and-run incident last Tuesday afternoon. |
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潇湘夜雨
胖龟
正解：
(1) I am late again, aren't I?
(haven't I => aren't I)
Question ...
风满楼 发表于 27-1-2010 09:17 AM
所以不能用he/she代替they?
someone left his/her cellphone behind
everybody thinks he/she is important |
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所以不能用he/she代替they?
someone left his/her cellphone behind
everybody thinks he/she is impo ...
潇湘夜雨 发表于 27-1-2010 03:52 PM
虽然不时会看到有人那么写，但正统的语法书应该不会那么教...
我们去Google PK 一下：
about 15,400,000 for "everybody thinks they are"
about 72,300 for "everybody thinks he/she is
about 91,900 for "everybody thinks he or she is"
可以想象， he/she 难免又会引起那些“性别主义者”的争辩：为什么 he/she，为什么不 she/he...... |
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发表于 27-1-2010 04:32 PM
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正解：
(1) I want to live for hundred years.
I want to live for a hundred years.
单数的 hundred 不能省略 a 或 one.
(2) A 8-year-old boy was injured in a run-and-hit crash Tuesday afternoon.
An 8-year-old boy was injured in a hit-and-run crash Tuesday afternoon.
别忘了 8=eight，所以 an eight-year-old
run-and-hit => hit-and-run， 不可能逃了才撞吧？
crash 不用改
Cambridge: crash = an accident, especially one which damages a vehicle: a car crash
其实这里要讨论的是 Tuesday afternoon.
... on Tuesday afternoon 或 ... Tuesday afternoon (省略 on) 都正确。
尤其是美式英语，on 常被省略。 |
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发表于 27-1-2010 04:37 PM
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简单一点的：
Did somebody called? |
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正解：
(1) I want to live for hundred years.
I want to live for a hundred years.
单数的 hundred ...
风满楼 发表于 27-1-2010 04:32 PM
为什么不用写last Tuesday
只写Tuesday就是这个星期的星期二?
last Tuesday就是上个星期的星期二? |
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为什么不用写last Tuesday
只写Tuesday就是这个星期的星期二?
last Tuesday就是上个星期的星期二?
潇湘夜雨 发表于 27-1-2010 04:39 PM
当我说 ... on Tuesday 时，我是指刚过去的那个星期二或将到来的那个星期二....
那要怎样辨别是那个星期二？别忘了英语的时态是有时间性的...
I bought this camera on Tuesday. (刚过去的那个星期二)
I'm going to buy a camera on Tuesday. (将到来的那个星期二）
last Tuesday 可以是，但也未必就是“刚过去的那个星期二”…
假设今天星期三，
如果我说：I bought this camera on Tuesday. 我是指昨天买了这个照相机。
如果我说：I bought this camera last Tuesday. 我是指上个星期二（八天前）买了这个照相机。
所以 Tuesday 未必就是 last Tuesday。 |
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回复 speakingringo
想学好发音的人，往往会严重忽略“听”的辅助作用
他们会以为，我在学讲，为 ...
风满楼 发表于 25-1-2010 02:52 PM
如果播放？ 教我 ～ |
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本帖最后由 Summer_kaze 于 28-1-2010 09:36 PM 编辑
这样好像在说：求学时很留意语法，基本语法很好，离校后就变差了....
我很难认同，人是习惯性动物，怎 ...
风满楼 发表于 27-1-2010 08:18 AM
it's sad but totally true especially in this multi-lingual society,grammatical mistakes in english or misuses of words are so common.and we're non-native English speakers.the standard of english in the nation is still pretty low.There're some bastards who still want english to be discontinued in teaching sciences & mathematics.
只是一般俺們沒去magnify談話語病。加上馬來西亞人講話的style都是比較relaxed and as long as u get ur message across to the people u're talking to everything should be fine.if the case is a teacher's perceptive that could also be a different point of view.however, i still prefer to speak in proper english.i think learning languages is still a never ending process as we all age. |
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it's sad but totally true especially in this multi-lingual society,grammatical mistakes in e ...
Summer_kaze 发表于 27-1-2010 10:36 PM 
people just seem to be uncaring about the accuracy of language, not even their mother tongue, let alone the english language. i think that's because malaysians don't read much, so it's difficult for them to improve 
are you a language teacher?
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