我的新家要买４２’ＬＣＤ。有什么选择？FUll HD

Kino

原帖由 尔齐 于 27-8-2008 02:16 PM 发表



谢谢Liau的说明。

再一次听说ASTRO MAX 有HDMI － High-Definition Multimedia Interface。

请有ASTRO MAX的网友说说。

好象2009.

亚洲航空

我的budget 是RM4000 以下。。。

不懂MBF 那个37寸 还有offer吗？？

cyberamoeba

原帖由 Liau 于 27-8-2008 02:37 PM 发表


第一，店员要说服你买42"以上的LCD, 所以说42"以下的LCD看astro不清晰
第二，店员要清plasma旧库存，所以一直叫你买plasma

这个我也听说过，
商家为了推销某种品牌或者某个型号，
会在其他牌子的设定上做手脚，然后再做比较给你看，
目的是要让他想卖你的那个牌子，看起来效果比其他牌子好很多。

亚洲航空

原帖由 cyberamoeba 于 27-8-2008 03:26 PM 发表


这个我也听说过，
商家为了推销某种品牌或者某个型号，
会在其他牌子的设定上做手脚，然后再做比较给你看，
目的是要让他想卖你的那个牌子，看起来效果比其他牌子好很多。

这个最常发生在slim sq...你明明要买ＸＸ　ｍｏｄｅｌ．．你问到最ｎｅｔｔ价钱了。。。

他们就介绍一个差不多价钱的给你（实际上，这个在别的店，最少可以便宜ＲＭ５０－７０。）
如果你接受他的介绍，自己认为比自己原本的好，又便宜一点。。你就上当了）

cyberamoeba

老实说，光看画面，我无法分辨 LCD 和 plasma。

有一回在电器店，店员做 demo，LCD 和 plasma 播相同的画面。
第一组画面像 screen saver 般，有一个 logo 在银幕上快速移动，
plasma 画面顺畅，LCD 残影严重，移动中的 logo 拖着黑色的尾巴。
第二组画面是移动的地图，plasma 画面清晰，
LCD 一片模糊，地图上的小字根本看不清楚，看久了会头晕。

结果 2 比 0，让我燃起买 plasma 的念头。

我有想过，这些画面是针对 LCD 的弱点刻意做出来的。
买了 LCD 的朋友，你们的 LCD 有这种情况吗？

亚洲航空

其实报纸上次有登.... LCD 的科技还算新...如果要买大点screen的。。还是选plasma

现在的LCD ，32寸的科技已经成熟了。。

再大点的LCD（要好的）。。。就先忍忍。。（因为价钱很贵），
便宜的。。当然就好像上面他们说的有残影。。。。。。

Liau

原帖由 cyberamoeba 于 27-8-2008 04:07 PM 发表
老实说，光看画面，我无法分辨 LCD 和 plasma。

有一回在电器店，店员做 demo，LCD 和 plasma 播相同的画面。
第一组画面像 screen saver 般，有一个 logo 在银幕上快速移动，
plasma 画面顺畅，LCD 残影严重， ...

那是因为response time慢的关系，尤其是在比较暗的画面。
8ms response time肯定会有这个问题，6ms response time会比较好，当然也比较贵。
不大清楚现在有没有更快的response time, 我想应该有了。

依祈

其实要争论 LCD 和 Plasma 的优缺点, 争也争不完, 各有各的拥护者.
耗电, 烙印, 发热, 这都是过去式了, 就像 LCD 的可视角小, 色偏, 应答速度慢, 都在进步中.

Sony 舍弃 Plasma 不是因为要淘汰了, 而是技术层面问题. 很多人都知道, Sony 并没有制造和生产液晶面版, 用的是韩国三星或台湾友达面版. 自从进入LCD时代后, Sony 因太晚进入LCD战场而损失了电视市场占有率.
Sony 后来以其出色的 Bravia Engine (CRT 时代是Wega Engine)  突破重围.

Plasma 技术门槛和成本较高, 目前全球拥有技术的不多, Pioneer是龙头老大, Panasonic 紧追在后, Philips 在瓯洲占有一席之地. Samsung和LG全球销量最高, 不过也慢慢淡出市场. 不久后, Pioneer 也要和 Panasonic 合作, Panasonic 将会是最大的 Plasma 面板制造商. 今年推出了G11第十一代面板, 明年迈入G12, 偏向更省电更薄.

LCD 技术门槛和成本较低, 市场大(娱乐和电脑), 所以大把厂商抢著做. 由于技术较新, 还有很大的发展空间.

我本身也偏向Plasma, 因为我在意的是颜色的表现,色域广,自然,不会有色偏,"黑色够黑" . 一台42"只卖4K, 夫复何求?

如果您想买LCD, 以下几个建议供参考:
1. 40" 或以下, 没必要买 FullHD
2. 100Hz/120Hz 可以有效减低拖影/残影的效果, 不过有些人认为这种"无中生有"的东东不自然
3. 在卖场作比较时试试从斜角看, 看色偏严不严重.
4. 10bit面板比8bit来的好,色域更广,不过内部引擎也很重要(如Sony Bravia, Toshiba Meta Brain..等)

如果要我选LCD, 我会买有 100/120Hz, 10bit IPS-alpha 面板的机种.   不过价钱就......

亚洲航空

原帖由 依祈 于 27-8-2008 04:28 PM 发表
1. 40" 或以下, 没必要买 FullHD ...

可以来解释，。。解释。。。FULL ＨＤ　和ＨＤ　　什么分别吗？？

飞来的燕子

我也是认为。。LCD是最好的了。。。。
未来的路。。也是LCD full HD  的天下了。。。

亚洲航空

找到答案了．．

1、 什么是“FULL HD液晶电视”?

　　FULL HD是Full High Definition的简写，代表全高清的意思。所谓FULL HD电视就是能够完全显示1920×1080象素的平板电视机，它的扫描线数达到了1080P，能够呈现622万象素顶级高清画质。与普通液晶电视相比，其图像更为细腻、逼真，展现的细节层次也更为丰富。

　　2、FULL HD和HD有什么区别?

　　HD是High Definition的简写，代表高清的意思。按照信息产业部制定的《数字电视接收设备——显示器标准》，凡是水平和垂直清晰度均达到720电视线以上的就可以算是高清电视。目前市场上大部分的HD电视物理分辨率都是1366×768，只能显示105万象素的画质。

　　而FULL HD是目前最顶级的高清格式，它的水平和垂直清晰度都必须达到1080P以上，物理分辨率达到1920×1080，能够完全显示622万象素顶级高清画质。所以两者在画面显示的清晰度上有着本质的区别。


　　明白了什么是FULL HD液晶电视，也知道了它和HD电视之间的区别，现在的你一定信心十足整装待发，准备去卖场看看了吧?嘿，再等等!专家提醒我们，购买的过程中你会遇到各种各样的陷阱，一不小心你就会掉进去。等到醒悟的时候，已经追悔莫及!下面就让专家给你支招，为你化解重重谜团!

亚洲航空

不過現在台灣的數位電視還是沒成熟，節目又少，又很少支援到1080P，所以還是無用武之地，
不過目前藍光光碟技術已經成熟了，只差成本降低，所以相信 Full HD 是未來的主流電視，
有充足的預算還是要買有 Full HD的電視才好。

飞来的燕子

原帖由 亚洲航空 于 27-8-2008 04:42 PM 发表
找到答案了．．

1、 什么是“FULL HD液晶电视”?

　　FULL HD是Full High Definition的简写，代表全高清的意思。所谓FULL HD电视就是能够完全显示1920×1080象素的平板电视机，它的扫描线数达到了1080P，能够呈 ...

我是准备买。。。42寸~full HD   LCD

飞来的燕子

原帖由 亚洲航空 于 27-8-2008 04:45 PM 发表
不過現在台灣的數位電視還是沒成熟，節目又少，又很少支援到1080P，所以還是無用武之地，
不過目前藍光光碟技術已經成熟了，只差成本降低，所以相信 Full HD 是未來的主流電視，
有充足的預算還是要買有 Full HD的 ...

就是这样，所以很多旧货都，，，减价来卖了。。。

Orcamaniac

Differences between Plasma and LCD

Plasma : Watching VCD or Astro very clear, DVD or blu-ray, video games or PC output not very clear

LCD : Watching Astro so so but acceptable, DVD clear and sharp picture and even can PC,  PS2 or PS3

Conclusion: Buy LCD because astro going to implement HD Channel and Plasma will sucks big time at that time.

[ 本帖最后由 Orcamaniac 于 27-8-2008 04:57 PM 编辑 ]

真心朋友

我朋友的姐姐上个月在时代广场的best买了一台37寸的sony display set 才RM2199，而我本身在前两个礼拜到curve的harvey norman 去看到两台三星的40“LCD，一台RM3399， 一台RM3699， 而JVC的42”则RM3799，超划算的，可是我忘了看是不是full HD 的。如果LZ有兴趣可以去看看，while stock last....

依祈

贴个图供参考:


从图表中可以看到, 要多近的距离看几寸的电视, 才能体验到 480/720/1080 的精细度.
以40"为例:
12' 以上, 480p 就够了
8'-12', 720p 还看得到
要看 1080p, 大概 5'-8' 的距离..

预算够, 当然买 FullHD + 100Hz/120Hz 最好, 如 Samsung 6 Series.
但4K, 应该不可能. 在大马要等 FullHD 广播, 再过几年吧, 到时, 以现在的差价都可以买一台FullHD的机种了.

亚洲航空

我看到。。。一款 4389。。。。Samsung 40'' LCD TV LA40A550P1 (FULL HD)



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飞来的燕子

原帖由 亚洲航空 于 27-8-2008 05:14 PM 发表
我看到。。。一款 4389。。。。Samsung 40'' LCD TV LA40A550P1 (FULL HD)



0" Full HD Entertainment TV
With ...

这是最新的，。。。。
可惜没有。。。出42寸的。。。。。

chrisyew

原帖由 cyberamoeba 于 27-8-2008 12:41 发表


就是有太多的听说，才让人头痛。

看电視和 astro 需要用到 HDMI 吗？
HDMI cable 好像很贵。

HDMI CABLE RM100
player有hdmi的才可以接上