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屋价过高,年轻人罢买

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发表于 21-10-2014 10:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
其实我觉得老人家们可以以另一个角度看这个贴。

曾经我会以为所有华人的思想都是会说人生一定要有一间屋子。屋子一直来说对我们都非常重要。

可是现在出现了新一代的人。

1.他们可能不是富二代
2.他们的工资大概是(RM2000-RM2500)
3.他们可以供电话(苹果,三星),有架手提电脑。
4.他们的思想是未必需要买屋子。租一世人也没有关系。

现在我们知道有这一群新生代。而他们将会是我们未来的租客。

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发表于 21-10-2014 11:05 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
suncw 发表于 20-10-2014 03:21 PM
2008年確實是好的時機,但2014快過將邁入2015,而且2015年4月還有加值稅的問題以及升息,現在還是買房的好 ...

Uob 的更高,得空你打去問問。
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发表于 21-10-2014 11:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
mchen3389 发表于 1-10-2014 09:21 AM
举手之前,
请问多少价格才算是高价屋?
另外,

个人觉得,就那20%的人在炒,80%的人只有吃自己的份。
有钱的一次买几间,没钱的一间都买不起。
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发表于 21-10-2014 11:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
我现在有点小钱想买屋了。。。可是penang来来去去都是600k以上的。。。

惟有一边期待泡沫一边找好的屋子。。。

有好介绍的话来和阿猫介绍下。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 23-10-2014 10:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
espano 发表于 21-10-2014 10:15 PM
楼主,你现在一直看小cyberjaya。没有人买,没有人住。看看以下的报道。

魏家祥:霹靂聯合華小遷賽城( ...

霹靂州聯合華小將正式遷校至賽城? 你懂什么是霹靂州吗?那边的居民也搬过来?哈哈
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发表于 23-10-2014 11:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
y2ksaw18 发表于 20-10-2014 05:53 PM
现在回头看,2008年当然是买房的好时机,可是当时我在电子厂工作的朋友,每个月被逼拿两个星期的无薪假期 ...

投资除了要看大气候的趋势,也要看看自己的,所谓天时地利人和,有天时地利,却没人和,还是不成事的。经济不好,楼价掉,对有闲钱的人一定是机会难得,对那些受经济不好而受到影响的一定是连想都不敢想。就好象去逛商场,全部都大促销,买到很便宜,但自己钱包没钱,你会敢买吗?所以最好的方法是未雨绸缪。
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发表于 23-10-2014 11:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
espano 发表于 21-10-2014 10:15 PM
楼主,你现在一直看小cyberjaya。没有人买,没有人住。看看以下的报道。

魏家祥:霹靂聯合華小遷賽城( ...

我越来越觉得你跟傻佬在讲话。

华小就是华小,他以为华小搬迁就是把perak 人民搬过来,S_hai 到。

但是其实可能你没有注意到,kl 区华小开始出现学生人数减少,但是市郊区如puchong 的华小却年年饱满。
华小不是一个让人搬迁去那里的原因,而是可负担价位比较重要,kl 越来越多人负担不起房价,所以华小录取量越来越少。
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发表于 23-10-2014 12:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
科学就是未来 发表于 23-10-2014 11:37 AM
我越来越觉得你跟傻佬在讲话。

华小就是华小,他以为华小搬迁就是把perak 人民搬过来,S_hai 到。

个人认为,华小对一个华人社区是很重要的资产。

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发表于 23-10-2014 01:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
u0508950 发表于 23-10-2014 12:44 PM
个人认为,华小对一个华人社区是很重要的资产。

是会有影响,但是回到原点,价位是不是可以负担。很多有钱人宁愿孩子去读国际学校。
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发表于 23-10-2014 02:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
u0508950 发表于 23-10-2014 12:44 PM
个人认为,华小对一个华人社区是很重要的资产。

一个地区的价值会不会增值,是看发展的全面性的。只是有华小并不能吸引到人民去置业的,很多时候还要看那区的医疗设施,交通设施,公共设施,娱乐场所,休闲设施等等,单单只是华小并不能带动到资产增值。不过如果以学院或大学来比较,学院和大学就比小学的有power了。



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发表于 23-10-2014 02:27 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
vincentsieng 发表于 23-10-2014 02:20 PM
一个地区的价值会不会增值,是看发展的全面性的。只是有华小并不能吸引到人民去置业的,很多时候还要看那 ...

我只是有感而發罷了,也許更應該說,華小是其中一個利好因素。
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发表于 23-10-2014 03:05 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
condomx 发表于 23-10-2014 03:06 PM
2700psf

http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/articles/investment/kls-latest-golden-address ...

黃金地點,黃金設計,黃金價格。

鄰居是很好的selling point.
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发表于 23-10-2014 03:05 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
keppelland 发表于 23-10-2014 11:26 AM
投资除了要看大气候的趋势,也要看看自己的,所谓天时地利人和,有天时地利,却没人和,还是不成事的。经 ...

2008年是买房子的好时机,要看2014年的房价来下定论,2014年是不是好时机,也要看2020年的房价来下定论。目前雪隆的房价还没有到30岁上下年纪的人完全负担不起的地步。
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发表于 23-10-2014 03:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
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http://www.starproperty.my/index ... est-golden-address/

KL’s latest golden address
Posted on October 20, 2014  | 450 views |         Topic : Investment.
Developer announces luxury mixed-use development

BY YVONNE YOONG
yvonneyoong@thestar.com.my

IT’S official. The definition of luxury has just been raised with the unveiling of the 8 Conlay development in Kuala Lumpur recently.

The project is KSK Land Sdn Bhd’s newly minted mixed-use development comprising two branded residential towers of 55-storey and 60-storey blocks connected via two sky bridges, complemented by a 62-storey five-star hotel and a retail component in the heart of Kuala Lumpur’s bustling Golden Triangle.

Scheduled for completion in 2018, the 1,092 residential units will feature built-up sizes ranging between 650sq ft and1,300sq ft while the hotel is expected to be finished in 2020.

8 Conlay, with a gross development value (GDV) of RM4bil, owes its name to its auspicious address.

The development commands an average price of RM2,700 per sq ft — with the subsequent phases expected to exceed RM3,000 per sq ft.

This maiden venture by the wholly owned property subsidiary of investment holding company, KSK Group Bhd, formerly known as Kurnia Asia Bhd, made the headlines last year when it purchased the 3.952 acres (1.599 ha) of freehold land on Jalan Conlay for RM568mil.

Following the land acquisition, many have been anticipating the details of the actual development itself.

Seen here is the YOO designed Atria Dubai. All of its 220 units sold out in five hours.
Seen here is the YOO designed Atria Dubai. All of its 220 units sold out in five hours.

The long wait is over as KSK Land managing director Joanne Kua released details concerning 8 Conlay last Wednesday at the group’s headquarters in Jalan Yap Ah Shak, Kuala Lumpur.

Kua announced the appointment of international design studio YOO (pronounced as “You”) as its newest brand partner for Phase 1 of the high-rise branded residences at 8 Conlay.

“Just like the finest branded developments worldwide, we have our partners. Steve Leung & YOO will design Tower A’s residences and amenities.

“Tower B’s designer and the five-star luxury hotel operator will be announced later,” said Kua who is also KSK Group Bhd’s group chief executive officer.

She added that because branded residences are in their infancy in Malaysia, 8 Conlay would usher in “quality and liveability” that Malaysia has yet to see”.

Crown jewels

YOO, having designed branded residences since 1999, has a penchant for working with high-profile designers including Philippe Starck, Marcel Wanders, Jade Jagger and celebrated designers to the stars, Kelly Hoppen.

Likewise, the collaboration between YOO and prolific Hong Kong-based designer Steve Leung is deemed the right fit for 8 Conlay. Leung and YOO will unleash their creativity on the interiors and common areas of the serviced residences.

YOO residence in Hong Kong broke the record for the highest price per sq ft for a one-bedroom unit when it was launched.
YOO residence in Hong Kong broke the record for the highest price per sq ft for a one-bedroom unit when it was launched.

YOO managing director for Asia Pacific Andrew Pang praised Leung’s unique minimalist style infused with Asian culture.

“The 144-units of YOO Residence in Hong Kong was our first collaboration with Yeung, launched at a time when the Hong Kong government was implementing strong cooling measures to the property market, such as an increase in stamp duty and reducing the borrowing percentage to only 50%.

“Yet, we still managed to achieve an average of HK$34,000 (RM14,368) per sq ft overall, and a record breaking HK$43,000 per sq ft — the highest price for a high floor, one-bedroom unit — besides winning several awards. Thus, the premium achieved for YOO Residence in Hong Kong was a staggering 26% to 42%,” said Pang.

(From Left) Pang and Leung of the YOO design consultancy with Kua of KSK Land.
(From Left) Pang and Leung of the YOO design consultancy with Kua of KSK Land.

In comparison, he said that within a minute’s stroll from the development is a similar non-branded project called The Warren, developed by Wing Tai Properties Ltd which was launched shortly before YOO Residence, in better market conditions. However, the overall price achieved for the Warren was only HK$24,000 to RMHK$27,000 per sq ft.

Leung commended the design philosophy reflected in the architecture of 8 Conlay undertaken by RSP Architects KL Sdn Bhd’s Hud Abu Bakar, with the form of the towers conceptualised like the Chinese numerical character “8” to reflect the project’s auspicious address.

“The architecture looks unique but at the same time, is rational and has the quality of an iconic building,” he said adding that he always considers the relationship between humans and nature, man and culture, and how people feel in his designs succinctly defined as “liveable architecture”.

Kua shared that the vision is to establish the design from the “outside in” and “inside out” based on the end user’s perspective.

“Everything is always tailormade to what the market and local culture requires while coming up with something that is unique in the end. We think local and global, and we all share the same vision and philosophy,” she said.

The YOO Montreal, inspired by Philippe Starck, saw 45% of its total 96 units sold in 72 hours.
The YOO Montreal, inspired by Philippe Starck, saw 45% of its total 96 units sold in 72 hours.

Already, Kua has gotten everyone on board early enough to understand the whole philosophy of 8 Conlay to create “a liveable, seamless design experience”.

Adding value

YOO, founded by property entrepreneur John Hitchcox and famous designer Philippe Starck, has undertaken designs for 76 projects in 53 cities spanning 33 countries.

Among them was its first YOO residential development in New York City which saw 90% of its 326 units sold within seven days of its launch. YOO Montreal inspired by Starck saw 45% of its total 96 units sold in 72 hours.

Meanwhile, Atria Dubai’s 220 apartments located in Dubai’s Business Bay was sold out in five hours. The company’s flair for working with its development partners to help them create a competitive premium property, has not gone unnoticed by property adviser Knight Frank as detailed in its “Branded Developments: The impact of branding on luxury residential developments” report in 2012 in which it profiled the impact of branding on values.

Branded residences, it said, place an emphasis on services and facilities for the wealthy but time-strapped individuals, luxury-hotel level facilities and services within a residential property enhanced by architecture and design.

An artist’s impression of the 8 Conlay development comprising two tower blocks linked by two sky bridges and a five-star hotel.
An artist’s impression of the 8 Conlay development comprising two tower blocks linked by two sky bridges and a five-star hotel.

The report concluded that branded residences command an average of 31% more in value globally, compared to equivalent non-branded schemes, reaching over a 50% premium in some locations. The report points to the “emerging world” as the main centres for the generation of new wealth.

Kua points out that branded residences where developers team up with celebrated designers, international luxury hospitality, and lifestyle brands are an emerging trend in luxury housing. She remains optimistic about the timing of the launch next March, believing that there is a niche market for branded residences here that will override the generally cautious sentiment of the wider property market.

“Branded residences are a level above five-star luxury. They have an element of architecture, and one big element that people forget, is the element of design.

“If you’re buying into something like 8 Conlay, you want to buy to keep, as it feels like a collectible item, even from an investor’s perspective, so you can appreciate that the investment value will go up,” she opined.

She believes that 8 Conlay’s asking price is among the most affordable in the branded-residences segment. “KL is still more affordable and we are not only selling to Malaysians, but people globally.”

Undeniably, it’s a winning design combination that’s hard to beat.

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发表于 23-10-2014 04:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
u0508950 发表于 23-10-2014 03:05 PM
黃金地點,黃金設計,黃金價格。

鄰居是很好的selling point.

等着看有没有人跳出来大叫国民平均收入只不过是3-4千块,怎么能负担得起 2700psf的豪宅
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发表于 23-10-2014 04:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
condomx 发表于 23-10-2014 04:19 PM
等着看有没有人跳出来大叫国民平均收入只不过是3-4千块,怎么能负担得起 2700psf的豪宅

对啊!小弟年入才一万
怎么能负担得起 2700psf的豪宅?
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发表于 23-10-2014 04:38 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
condomx 发表于 23-10-2014 04:19 PM
等着看有没有人跳出来大叫国民平均收入只不过是3-4千块,怎么能负担得起 2700psf的豪宅

让我们再看看这栋公寓的销量如何。:)
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发表于 20-11-2014 09:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
selina1997 发表于 23-10-2014 10:39 AM
霹靂州聯合華小將正式遷校至賽城? 你懂什么是霹靂州吗?那边的居民也搬过来?哈哈[/backcolo ...

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
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发表于 21-11-2014 04:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
等吧··

泡沫就来了·· 银行已经很难批贷款···除非银行继续这样借出去··
真的还不起时就 “嘿嘿”·· 有朋友做银行的··也说现在有大部分年轻人借贷买屋 供不起··
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发表于 22-11-2014 11:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
罢买?不如罢屙尿打击房产。。
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