【BIG BANG (빅뱅) ☆ V.I.P ☆ 讨论区 V.2】Merry X'Mas!!

lingstar

Big Bang TaeYang will be releasing his 2nd solo album this autumn.

Yang HyunSeok left a message on YG Entertainment official homepage on 24th September saying, “Mid-October, TaeYang will be releasing a digital album and MV to comeback title ‘Where U At’.:

But the date for TaeYang’s full length 2nd album release has yet been confirmed.

According to YG, TaeYang will be promoting for a longer period of time as compared to his 1st solo album activities. YG also revealed that they will take on a multi-angle approach to TaeYang’s promotions this time round.

He added, “The filming for TaeYang’s ‘Where U At’ MV will take place this weekend (3rd week of September), together with director Seo HyunSeung.”

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呼呼~~~好消息~~~

ngreeve

期待预告曲啊
又要花钱了

lingstar

translated by 코코마탑횽 @bbvipz (tiptop.mireene.com)

Hi, It's Yang Hyun-Seok.

For the past few months, there were way too many rumours and misunderstanding regarding YG Entertainment.  Frankly speaking, we kept our words, because we did not think it was right to defend against every single rumours. I am feeling deeply sorry for burdening you with our silence, and decided to explain ourselves.

I will answer the questions as if we were in an interview setting.

There has been an issue of plarigiarism regarding G-Dragon's solo album title song, Heartbreaker.
How come YG has not released an official statement regarding this issue?
- Apart from the part of this issue, as a person who loves music, and as a producer who is taking part in improving popular music industry, I apologize from deep below.  The reason why YG and G-Dragon did not release a statement up till now, is because we heard that the publishing companies have sent the music file to the original composer, and we have been waiting for a reply.

We did not think it was right to release our opinion before the composers have.

It was broadcasted on "News magazine 2580 (시사매거진 2580)" that Sony ATV has sent a warning to YG entertainment.  What is YG's response?
- First of all, we are very upset towards Sony ATV.  Everything they do, they try to justify it in the media as an
official statement.  I do not know whether they sent the warning to YG or they sent it to broadcast it in the media in the first place.

To the makers of music, the word 'plarigiarism' represents the worst honour.  Even if the composers say 'it isn't plarigiarized', it remains as unhealed deep wounds to those involved.  In case of "Heartbreaker", the other publishing companies owning 90% of the rights have remained silent, whereas Sony, owning 10% of the rights, have released their "official statement" on the media.

A few days ago, a lawyer from Sony ATV was interviewed with "News magazine 2580", and told that they have senta warning to YG entertainment.  The only thing YG is concerned about, is that the public is thinking as if YG has been sued from the composers and YG is in a deep trouble.  Contrary to the public's belief, the warning Sony ATV sent to YG is nothing but mere document they could send hundreds of copies per day.  It contained no opinions of the composers themselves, it looked like it was quickly made to be broadcasted.  Apart from the lawyer of Sony ATV,there was the president of Sony ATV Korea, Heo Young-Ah.  You need to remember that she appeared as a board member for Korean Music Publishing Association; she concealed her identity as the president of Sony ATV Korea.  

Ever since this issue of plarigiarism broke out, YG has never asked for anything from Sony ATV.  We did not want to resolve this issue without the public knowing.  If there needs to be any legal actions taken, YG will try its best, and isnot afraid a bit.  However, we have heard that Sony ATV has only two to three people working, and we have been concerned with that.  "Are they able to contact the composers directly?"  "Are the original composers interested in this matter at all?"  For nearly a month, we have not heard a single word from the composers, and we are doubting for a bit.

In the warning Sony ATV sent to YG, there are not only G-Dragon's "Heartbreaker" and "Butterfly", but also
2NE1's "I Don't Care" and Big Bang's Japanese song, "With U".  We were surprised to see new songs being accused,but we will think it as Sony's new strategies, thinking that accusing G-Dragon alone is not enough.  For the cases of "I Don't Care" and "With U", they are the works of YG's main producers, Teddy and Perry.  Teddy has been a producer for 10 years, and Perry has been for 15 years.  There are hundreds of songs they composed and produced.  Among them, there may be cases they might be accused, but for the past 10 years, there has been any accusations for their works.  They remained in YG despite the countless scoutings from others.  They have high prides of their music, and are hurt deeply from Sony ATV's hush press releases.  Their hurt pride is not able to be healed fast, and YG has been accused full of "composers who plarigiarize" in the public.  To be honest, I think because they are famous and both producers, Sony ATV is using them for their advantage.

Sony ATV has accused that G-Dragon's "Butterfly" has copied OASIS' "She's Electric" for having similar parts.  The musician who appeared on "News magazine 2580" stated that the parts the two songs are similar are 2 bars, panning approximately 5 seconds.  But he also stated that because that is the main sequence melody, it may be a problem.

Then, I think I get to ask you a question as well.

A few days ago, Mariah Carey's new song, "Standing O" teaser was released on youtube.  Comparing this song to "I don't care", you get 8 bars of similar parts.  It is 24 seconds, instead of 5 seconds, also has it as its major motive, and adding up the similar parts together, results in approximately 1 minute.  What is Sony ATV's opinion towards this song?  I don't know, but I am sure that you can't easily say that Mariah Carey has plarigiarized 2NE1's song that was released 3 months ago, although it contains longer and clearer motives from "I Don't care".  

I have thought reversely as well.  "What if this was G-Dragon's music?  What if it was the other way around?"  
It is quite scary.

Although embarassing to admit, the music Sony ATV presented for "I Don't Care", none of the composers nor myself have heard the song, because it isn't the type of music we listen to in the first place.  Upon Sony ATV's standards, if you were to put together pieces of any music together by force,  I do not think any music could be innocent in your standards.  If protecting the rights of publishers is Sony ATV's job, you should also take a note that other publishers' dignity and rights are just as important.

Because Sony ATV released such rash public statements, YG and G-Dragon had to receive more sarcastic remarks and offensive responses, but we decided not to release our statement towards Sony ATV through the media.  It is because we respected your company, NOT because we did not have anything to say.  The first and last proposal from YG to Sony ATV, is that please deliver us the opinions from the original composers to YG, and stop releasing unconfirmed statement to the media before anything finalizes.  If the 4 songs you warned YG are proved to be innocent in the near-future, you should be prepared to see YG's reaction.

Where does YG stand in this plarigiarism issue?
- In my opinion, all the arguments and discussions could be seen different depending on the views and the viewers.  So, I cannot explain my personal opinion of whether it was influenced by other songs or not.
However, in the centre of attention, there is "Heartbreaker".  This issue emerged above the surface because it had similar rap-flow as Flo Rida's Right Round.  Right Round is an extremely famous song even in Korea, and recently another Korean artist has sung it with translation, and appeared on the media.  It is impossible that the composers at YG and G-Dragon tried to go around their way to plagiarize.  It is impossible, because with the internet and all, everything gets revealed quickly.

Many expressed their concerns, "Why did G-Dragon do this?  For the rappers who write and rap, it shouldn't be hard to fix a few verses and re-recording", and "How come did Yang Hyun-Seok, Teddy, Perry and Kush never mention that to G-Dragon?"  It isn't because we were trying to fool the public, but the other way around.  I did not expect such a stir among the public, and I think I should be 100 folds more responsible than G-Dragon as the executive producer.  I am truly sorry to G-Dragon and his fans who are burdened alone.

Any more wrongs from the media and misunderstandings?
- YG never released a statement that "Heartbreaker is G-Dragon's solo-composed piece.  Would the public like this piece if this was a plarigiarized piece?".  This is absurd and truly psychotic.  Due to high interest to Big Bang and 2NE1, there are many unsaid things being reported to the media, and rumours are creating more rumours.  Because i do not socialize as much, there are haters and misunderstandings happening frequently.  

Recently, KBS Radio boycotted all the YG music from being played on the air, and because 2NE1's manager declined an interview request, one newspaper continuously pours out articles containing some crap about YG.  Even yesterday, he wrote that "Yang Hyun-seok is loving his artists in the wrong way".  For the past three months, there are over 30 articles he wrote against YG.  I think the saying, 'you never get tired' suits him for sure.  I think it is maybe because he has too much love and interest towards YG.

Mere entertainment companies can't fight against media corporations.  It is also hard to lobby them to put on better articles.  I try to think to groom myself first instead of talking badly of others these days.

cont..

lingstar

cont...

There are opinions which claim that "the issue has elevated because YG has been covering G-Dragon as a genius composer".  What do you think about this?
- The funny thing is, for the past 9 years G-Dragon has resided in YG, never I nor YG called him as a genius
composer.  I am known to be cold and objective from my artists.  The fans know that I am not that kind of person complementing the artists often.  In opposite, the fans were upset because I talked about G-Dragon's collaboration process with others.

There are around 60 songs which G-Dragon took part in compositing and writing lyrics.  Usually he wrote the lyrics by himself, but when composing music, he collaborated with many people.  The reason is because he has been really busy to take time arranging the songs.  When G-Dragon was 16 years old, I have used my own personal money to get him some musical gear, and G-Dragon has made many hiphop tracks, but because Big Bang debuted and had rigorous schedule, it had been stopped.  I heard that there are 10 people holding license for "Right Round".It is such an ordinary way of composing music with others.

A few months ago, it is important to be able to arrange songs you have composed, but it is also important to make the melodies and lyrics, and designing the structure of the song as a whole.  They are important because they cannot be only learned.  You need that sense of gift for that part.  

The term 'genius' does not suit the 22-year-old composer, and nor does he want it.  The reason why so many people have their hopes for him, is not because he is a genius, but because he has his unique style and sense towards music.  Extraordinary 13-year-old boy has become the G-Dragon of today, and people see him in the long run and in his potential from today.

There are sayings that this issue is part of the marketing for YG.
- First of all, YG is not that clever to come up with a marketing plan like this.
Especially for G-Dragon, he was receiving enough attention as the leader of famous idol group in Korea, and for releasing his ever-first solo album.  He is even cutting off the appearance on the stage...

There are also rumours that you are having troubles with one broadcasting company, because your
artists are not appearing on the stage.
- Whenever I hear about these rumours, I feel bad towards the broadcasting company.  I think this was derived because of YG's marketing scheme of appearing only 1 show per week.  YG is only concerned about the best program for its artists, we do not try to make better connection with the broadcasting companies.  We are not ignoring the broadcasting company, nor does the company boycotting the appearance of YG artists.  In the eyes of broadcasting company, there are way too many artists wanting to appear the show.  However, 2NE1 and G-Dragon has not requested to be on the show..It is only fair that they do not need to cast YG artists from their side.

Again, I apologize for any misunderstandings.

Now, the good news:
- This weekend, we are filming Tae Yang's music video "Where U At" with Seo Hyung-Seung PD.  We know that his promotion period was extremely short.  We are trying to come up with ideas for longer promotion period.It is being planned that the song will be released with a music video as digital media first.  The estimated date for Tae Yang's full volume cd is still to be announced.  I will keep you posted about Tae Yang soon.

On the first weekend of December, there will be G-Dragon's solo concert.  It will be held in Olympic Gymnastics Stadium, and there will be two concerts.  A detailed notice will be posted up soon, and the ticketing will be done after the Chinese new year.

That's it for now.  I will try to come back only with the happy news next time.

2009 09 24
From YG

[ 本帖最后由 lingstar 于 24-9-2009 03:34 PM 编辑 ]

lingstar

文中提到的marieh carey 的 standing o跟2ne1歌有点点相似，其实不是i don't care,而是in the club...

老杨这次终于有回应，这样看得比较安心。 之前都是对方单方面的说法，现在YG有回应了。这算是个交待吗？我觉得见仁见智。。。
还有就是，GD真的不是天才，是媒体大众把他视为天才。他也是平凡人一个，只是他的独特的才能，让他很特出而已。

八蕉扇

太阳的歌要出来了~期待

胜利在家族劲可爱~

cpm

YG终于回应了。。。。
真的是太好了。。现在心情没那么沉重了
Sony ATV的用心。。。哎。。。
之前在soompi看到有人提到MC的新歌有像In The Club,没想到YG也提到了

来说好消息吧，
YB要CB了。。。。期待啊！
龙也有solo conc啊。。。真是幸福啊韩国歌迷
对了，演唱会是在12月啦，为啥ticketing是过了新年才出？？

cpm

The best korean idols groups will gather for SBS Big Show during Moon Cake Festival!

SNSD,G Dragon,2NE1,KARA,SHINee,4Minute and 2AM will appear together on SBS “Chuseok Special Idol Big Show” this coming October the 3rd.

All those idols will have special dance performances and they will have the opportunity to reveal their lifestyle in their dorms, the experience during their practice and the music activities that they like the most.There will also be a special part of the show where those idols ask questions among themselves,i just wonder what kind of interesting questions they will ask among themselves.

There will also be a surprise appearance by a top group that's currently promoting oversaes,they will have a hot performance on that day's show.

This show will be broadcasted on 3rd October at 11.10 pm,please visit us again to watch the show!!

Translated by Kacey @ Daily K Pop News
Original source Newsen

ngreeve

BANGS EPISODE 9: 个人经纪人 1[翻译]

cpm

原来是这个原因，BB们才会有专属经纪人啊，难怪看GD TV时发现这怎么龙有自己的经纪人，呵呵
那个张根。。。好像满帅的哦。。。。哈哈哈！

cpm

We were all informed about KBS2FM boycotting YG Family and now it has been announced the boycotting has come to an end.

The whole controversy was about the matter of G-Dragon being a guest on Super Junior's Kiss the Radio. Supposedly, YG Family did not know G-Dragon was going to appear on the show when KBS2FM announced he was coming on the radio show. When G-Dragon pulled a no-show, both sides were angry about the situation.

KBS2FM was mad at the irresponsibility of G-Dragon and his representatives. They thought it was disrespectful and that they had to talk to YG before figuring things out. YG Family stated that they never confirmed his guest appearance on the show and that something went wrong in the communication.

On a phone call with Newsen on the 25th, YG Entertainment expressed, "It was all a misunderstanding so we personally talked things out." It has also been confirmed that KBS2FM will now start playing YG Entertainment's songs again.

Meanwhile, Yang Hyun Suk, president of YG Entertainment, has released his side of the story on the plagiarism accusations against his artistes.

© allkpop

cpm

ngreeve

亚洲音乐节的下载出了.
老实不客气放LINK出来了, 无中字的

2009亚洲音乐节.090924.HDTV.XviD

参演人员名单

2ne1  少女时代  Gackt、mihimaru GT、罗志祥、郑伊健 V6、Super Junior、Big Bang  K-Otic、
Agnes Monica、Ho Ngoc Ha  等

http://www.rayfile.com/zh-cn/files/9a7d0a30-a986-11de-b77f-0014221b798a/

爱上天使の恶魔

今天在ALL K-POP看到有GD的REMIX歌
可以去看看下
个人最喜欢DJ AMAYA 的版本

http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_story/g-dragon_spinning_on_the_dancefloor

lingstar

昨晚我看一点点的时候，还以为会播完他们唱的歌
怎知道当天唱两首歌，而节目上只播1首歌

lingstar

我反而喜欢alikstae的版本
我觉得the leader那首，真的很不错下


恭喜GD在music bank再次拿第一。。。
这次是5连冠还是四连冠了。。。

cpm

[Interview] Teddy's Interview with AM7 on Sept. 25, 2009: "I did not plagiarize anything"
POSTED BY PGEORGIE SEP 25, 2009

Following the reports that YG Entertainment whose artists include G-Dragon and 2NE1 has received notification letters concerning infringement of copyrighted materials from a local copyright holder, Teddy (HongJoon Park), the composer and producer of 2NE1’s "I Don’t Care," had an exclusive phone interview with AM 7 on the 24th to express his position on the issue. Whenever there was a dispute over plagiarism, it was usually the label (who has the neighboring copyrights) who released statements to acknowledge or deny the accusation. This is the first time that the composer, the copyright holder, has spoken about his position.

In the interview, Teddy said firmly that he did not plagiarize, responding to the claims that there are similarities between the chorus parts of "I Don't Care" and "Just Go" from Lionel Richie’s album released last year. He said, "I did listen to the Lionel Richie song following the controversy over "I Don't Care." You can’t say it is plagiarism just because the feel, not the melody, of the two songs are similar.” He stressed, "Two people living on the opposite sides of the world could have similar facial features. It is not right to say it is plagiarism just because the feel of the songs are similar. "I feel frustrated that some people are convinced that I used the Richie song as a reference, if not plagiarized," he added.

Teddy is a member of the hip hop group 1TYM and has been with YG Entertainment for over 10 years, writing and/or arranging most of the hits by YGE artists. He arranged Se7en's "I Know" (2006) and Big Bang’s "Sunset Glow" (2008) and wrote and arranged TaeYang’s "Look Only at Me" (2008), Um JeongHwa’s "D.I.S.C.O." (2008), and 2NE1 and Big Bang’s Lollipop (2009).

He says, "When you write a song and if that song is similar to another song then it is the composer’s responsibility to make changes. However, as far as this song ("I Don't Care") is concerned, Heaven knows and I know that I have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of so I will not discuss it at length." He added, "I have absolutely no interest in either lawsuits or plagiarism accusations."

[©AM7; by GoGumPyeong Kim; danny@munhwa.com]
[Translated by pgeorgie]

credit: dailykpopnews

lingstar

这次连teddy也开始回应这事件
做音乐的，他们最大的避忌就是抄袭别人的东西
被人家说抄袭，真的会觉得很不高兴吧

有没有觉得好像YG家的音乐，只要旋律上跟别的国家有点点相同
韩媒体就会大势报道
不是说想拿其他的公司的音乐来讲，但如果拿今年的歌来说
有些歌的旋律真的跟一些外国的歌相似，怎么就没看到那些媒体报道呢

[ 本帖最后由 lingstar 于 25-9-2009 07:23 PM 编辑 ]

ngreeve

Park MyungSoo on plagiarism case, “Instead, it is called sampling”
September 24, 2009 by sookyeong                                       

Gagman Park MyungSoo has spoken up about the plagiarism accusations made against Kpop artistes.Park MyungSoo spoke on MBC FM4U ‘2PM Date with Park MyungSoo‘on 23rd September, “It is not right to say who, but on the internet weall know that, and I find it weird that some people are insisting thatit is not plagiarism. Rather, people call it sampling, when it getstiring it becomes a comic and entertainment.”


And Bae GiSang and Sang DaeHyun who were the guest appearance on the show that day said, “Yes we should be honest about it.”
“Plagiarisms is a national humiliation. Foreigners are saying, ‘Areyou a country without your own creation?’. This serves as an awakeningcall to musician to make their own creations.”
After Park MyungSoo’s input on the plagiarism issue, there wereheated discussion online by netizens. Some said, “This is a goodawakening call for artistes”, “Ain’t this a little too rash consideringthat it is not confirmed if the songs are plagiarism?”, “Park MyungSoois not even talking about GDragon’s plagiarism case.”etc

ngreeve

[Sept 19th] GD@ Global Gathering:




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我說某KUSH你還真讓人又愛又恨
希望不會被人當頭條來說就可以了