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NOKIA N8 讨论区 (47楼小弟开箱图)

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发表于 21-5-2010 07:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
Video capture
GSMArena: Nokia N8 does 720p video at 25fps. Can you give us more technical details about the captured videos - such as the video and audio encoding format, the bitrate?

D. Dinning: We're using H.264 with AAC for the stereo audio. The video is currently encoding at around 9mbits/sec. This may change as we're currently evaluating the bit rate that gives us the best all round performance. The stereo audio is encoded at 128 kbits/sec with 48kHz sampling.

GSMArena: Are we going to see continuous auto focus on Nokia N8? It's still a rare feature but other cameraphones with HD video recording already have it - the Sony Ericsson Vivaz, for instance.

D. Dinning: We have been evaluating a continuous autofocus system for use in the Nokia N8. However, we concluded that the performance overall was not as good as the system we will use when shipping starts of the Nokia N8.

The Nokia N8 is our first product to use an Active Hyper Focal Distance system. We have used hyper focal distance before but in the case of the Nokia N8 where the HD video demands greater focus precision we needed to improve the dependability.

Many mobiles which include autofocus use driving systems which rely on friction to a certain degree. However, in some cases after the lens has been driven to the desired position it can 'slip' causing a shift in focus.

For this reason we use an 'Active' system where we constantly measure the position of the lens and readjust it to maintain the hyperfocal distance if required. The use of this system allows us to provide sharp and highly detailed videos from approximately 60cm to infinity without the need for adjustment to focus.

Other systems may provide benefits for shooting at closer distances but in our evaluation we found this to be less dependable in the vast majority of recording which is at distances greater than 60cm. On this basis we concluded that at this stage it is better to improve the dependability of the video performance across a wide range of conditions regardless of light and contrast levels and subject/scene changes.

However, we continue to investigate the opportunity of providing a focusing system which provides the best of both worlds for possible implementation in the future.

GSMArena: We guess streaming those HD videos made by the Nokia N8 to a TV-set will be a real treat to watch. Can you quote the maximum supported resolution over the HDMI connection? What we're interested in is whether user will be able to stream the 720p videos in their full quality and resolution.

D. Dinning: The HDMI connection allows both videos and still photos to be viewed up to 1280x720 resolution. Furthermore the HDMI connection supports Dolby 5.1 Surround sound; in the case your original video content includes such an audio track. So yes your videos and pictures truly are a treat to watch. Given many modern TV's provide front or side HDMI interfaces this is a really easy way to enjoy your own created content on what is no doubt the biggest screen in your house and in the most comfortable room to enjoy them.

GSMArena: And finally, there are some interesting video capturing modes that we've seen on cameraphones by competing manufactures for quite some time. We're talking about 120fps high-speed videos and also time-lapse videos. Have you incorporated any of those on the Nokia N8 and if you haven't, do you have any particular reason for ignoring those video recording modes?

D. Dinning: Our focus with the Nokia N8 was to provide the most rounded device of it's kind. You may find some of the aspects from the Nokia N8 in other broadly comparable devices but currently there isn't anything which provides such a complete mix of all of these in a single device.

General stuff
GSMArena: The semi non-removable design of the Nokia N8 battery baffled us a bit. HTC Legend has a similar design yet it allows users to swap batteries. Yes, there are others that somehow get away with it (Apple's iPhone), but it's a first from Nokia. What was the reason behind it?

D. Dinning: We wanted to create a robust device which feels good in hand and looks beautiful. With one-piece aluminium body and anodization treatment we get a range of great colours but also really rigid package joining with real glass display.

GSMArena: We have another technical question about Nokia N8 and that's the supported Bluetooth version. There seems to be some discrepancy between several Nokia documents that we've seen plus we've seen it change a couple of times on the Nokia European website. So is it Bluetooth 2.1 or 3.0?

D. Dinning: Bluetooth 3.0 is correct.

GSMArena: It's been a while since you announced such an interesting device like the Nokia N8 and you're a bit late on both the 12 megapixel front and the HD video recording scene. How do you plan to turn the tables in your favor?

D. Dinning: Nokia N8 is our latest smartphone to date that intuitively connects to the people, places and services that matter most and we believe it is a great device for people who want to create amazing content, connect to their favourite social networks and be entertained with the latest Web TV programs and Ovi Store apps.

The Nokia N8 offers excellent imaging capabilities. In addition to a 12MP Carl Zeiss optics, a Xenon flash and a large sensor, the Nokia N8 introduces the ability to make HD-quality videos and edit them with an intuitive built-in editing suite.

GSMArena: Any plans for a new non-touch high-end cameraphone? And also will HD video recording be reserved to top-tier devices only?

D. Dinning: According to our standard policy we cannot comment on unannounced products.

Having said that, I am sure you will see more products from Nokia and our competitors in the future include HD video recording capability. However, it's important to note that the recording resolution only tells half the story. The combination of Carl Zeiss optics, large sensor, stereo audio recording and high bit rates enhanced by the HDMI connectivity to fully enjoy those creations, we believe will prove a compelling combination.

GSMArena: Sounds fair. Now speaking about trends... It’s been a long time since we’ve seen a GSM cameraphone with optical zooming from any major manufacturer. Our guess is that the size is an issue, but what about folding optics, which are quite successful in the compact digital cameras. When do you think the technology will allow optical zoom lenses to fit comfortably in mobile phones?

D. Dinning: The challenge here is to get the size and performance balance right. Folded optics is one possible solution. However, the module needs to be relatively large. As a guide it would need to be in the region of 2.5x-3x larger than the module used in the Nokia N8 and even then there would be a compromises especially in low light performance. This is an area Nokia continues to investigate solutions which could provide what an acceptable balance between size and performance.

GSMArena: Ok, that's about it. We'd like to thank you for the excellent interview on behalf of our team and on the behalf of our readers. We hope they will enjoy reading it as much as we did making it.
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发表于 21-5-2010 07:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 genus7 于 21-5-2010 10:58 PM 编辑

结论是:

- n8拥有 1/1.83" sensor size 即大过(好过)普通DC
- n8 flash能力有如n82
- n8镜头有加一层防刮保护层及Neutral Density Filter-能在强烈光线下降低光线进入镜头取代n86的variable aperture。
- 拍照(近拍) macro 10cm-60cm
- 摄影采用H.264及stereo 128kbits 48kHz ACC代码
- video摄影对瞧采用Active Hyper Focal Distance系统(不能有macro摄影但>60cm距离表现更优秀)
- HDMI可输出1280X720图像或影片和支持Dolby 5.1 Surround sound输出。
- n8有mechanical shutter
- n8采用更新的silicon sensor能让它在感光表现更出色(n8 f/2.8 等于 n86 f/2.4)
- Bluetooth 3.0


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发表于 21-5-2010 09:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
啊。。。不能macro哦?
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发表于 21-5-2010 10:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 243# stanley851

拍照可以(10cm)
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发表于 22-5-2010 01:08 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复  stanley851

拍照可以(10cm)
genus7 发表于 21-5-2010 10:54 PM


啊,看错了,原来那个是摄影
10cm。。ok la,毕竟是电话,可以做到那么美的照片,很好了
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 楼主| 发表于 22-5-2010 08:31 AM | 显示全部楼层
N8 start shipping at US when 24th August 2010 with US dollar 467 ...... that means around RM 2000 ~~
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发表于 22-5-2010 08:47 AM | 显示全部楼层
24-august

去香港之前买。。无望了
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发表于 22-5-2010 09:42 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 246# ben小喇叭


    467usd不是rm1500+吗???
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发表于 22-5-2010 10:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复  ben小喇叭


    467usd不是rm1500+吗???
genus7 发表于 22-5-2010 09:42 AM



    还没有加tax的费用{:3_83:}
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发表于 22-5-2010 04:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 249# krizlid


tax应该是+-10%呱...

推测再加上运输费和利润应该2000左右
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发表于 22-5-2010 10:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
我爬帖了一阵子...
用了两年N82...一直没有想换手机的念头...
直到看了N8的消息和资料等...
12MP, Xenon flash, HD video, Carl Ziess lens等等...
心动了~ 好期待~
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 楼主| 发表于 23-5-2010 10:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
其实根据LOWYAT人的推断也是大概RM1800~1900加加,有时很难说,NOKIA有时也会先在亚洲推出新手机的,像我印象中N97好像是亚洲先上市对吧?好消息是,根据BENCHMARK对N8的评测数据指出,N8的运行速度比N97快244%,没错,是244%!!!!!比I8910 HD也快出90%,对于N8速度保持观望的网友这下可以放心了吧!在N97出现的应该不会再出现在N8,就算是卖到RM2000也是可以接受咯!
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发表于 23-5-2010 10:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
速度比n97快244% !?!?!?
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发表于 23-5-2010 11:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
到底几时会发布呢?
等到颈都长了.
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发表于 24-5-2010 08:31 AM | 显示全部楼层
拭目以待。。
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 楼主| 发表于 24-5-2010 06:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3MNW8gtNIA&feature=player_embedded

Nokia N8 photo browser , FAST !!
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发表于 24-5-2010 08:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
;feature=player_embedded

Nokia N8 photo browser , FAST !!
ben小喇叭 发表于 24-5-2010 06:03 PM
真的很杀啊。。。赶快上市吧。。。
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发表于 24-5-2010 08:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
可以媲美Iphone
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 楼主| 发表于 24-5-2010 10:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
没想到N8带给我们那么多的惊喜,如果N8真的能够做到面面俱圆而价钱又OK的话,相信能成为2010,甚至2011年最畅销的手机!我看到有一批用N8拍的照片,看看能不能找出来再贴上来!
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 楼主| 发表于 24-5-2010 10:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 258# 亚德里恩


    我虽然没用过IPHONE,不过我觉得N8更胜IPHONE!
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