【专题讨论】大馬股神逐個談: 重温有20亿新币身家的新加坡股神

ccck

8k大大来讲就不同了，这里很多他的“学生”啊！！
那么他算是cari的股神了吧！！！

kitkatlow

从作者简介里，我绝对相信是同名同姓不同人。

说到中国，中国有一位著名的股神，名叫杨百万。

我对此人感到好奇，甚至怀疑，这里有谁对他又认识吗？

Mr.Business

原帖由 kitkatlow 于 17-12-2007 05:58 PM 发表
从作者简介里，我绝对相信是同名同姓不同人。

说到中国，中国有一位著名的股神，名叫杨百万。

我对此人感到好奇，甚至怀疑，这里有谁对他又认识吗？

这里有他的blog，不懂是不是真的。

中国第一股民——杨百万　　杨百万，真名杨杯定，人称杨百万，自称“散户工会小组长”。　　自1988年投身于国库券交易，1990年进入股票市场，至今风风雨雨已十几年。作为中国证券市场的最早参与者，实践者和见证者，杨百万在证券市场拥有许多“第一”：第一个从事大宗国库券异地交易的个人，第一个到中国人民银行咨询证券的个人，第一个个人从保安公司聘请保镖，第一个主动到税务部门咨询交税政策，第一个聘请私人律师，第一个与证券公司对簿公堂，也是第一个作为个人投资者被大学聘为教授。
http://blog.cnfol.com/ybw


杨百万的精彩文章。。。
http://business.sohu.com/7/1002/32/column203793208.shtml


杨百万其实是个骗子？！！
2005-10-13 10:32:57 http://cn.bbs.yahoo.com/message/read_-c3RvY2s=_30965.html

    实际上，任何收费教抄股的，都是骗子。道理很简单——真有本事，直接到股市拿钱就完了.
　　
　　由于揭露了杨百万这老狗的骗人勾当，我们的一个同学被杨狗扫地出门了，但是作为一个最有权利告诉天下人的一个群体，我们还是要说“杨百万只不过是个骗子而已！”。我们都是杨百万的关门弟子,在他这里学习了一年到两年,亏损累累(都是杨狗指挥买的)!!还白白的被骗了2万块和两年时间.我们最有权利告诉天下的人,杨百万其实是个靠吹牛皮,耍无赖来骗去广大散户朋友的钱的人.大家都要小心,千万不要再重蹈覆辙,被这批狗贼欺骗.杨百万本人是个极其无耻的无赖,和他没有任何道理可讲.他目前就是能骗一个算一个,能骗两个赚一个,反正你不能揍他打他,反正钱是吃进了不会出来,反正他要死了,知道你不能把他怎样.杨百万本人极其能吹牛,没有脸皮的吹,他在媒体上极进吹牛的本事,为说好话,成了政府的吹鼓手,所以经常被提出来，像一只狗一样被政府牵出来而已,对一般散户来说非常有诱惑力.大家千万小心.
　　
　　杨百万的操作一塌糊涂莫，可以说是个不懂行的人。莫织华从10元抱到4元;东方电子从6元抱到3元多;江铃汽车从8.3抱到5元多;永鼎光缆8.40推荐，从第二天一直跌到5元多；上海电力从12元抱到6元;太极集团14元推荐,跌到现在7元钱;宁沪高速从8元钱使劲推,抱到现在5元多;国旅联合从除权前10元强力推荐,掉到8元强力推荐补仓,现在3元多;杨百万推荐的股票甚至90%多都是跌的很厉害，腰斩很正常，水平极臭。杨百万从2004年6月强力看多，推荐股票要大家买，等待大牛市，套住了让我们忍住，叫“金套”说不要紧，到9月14行情前年天，他说行情不行了，估计还要往下走，建议大家建仓，刚刚过一天，行情直飚而上，到了1490点的时候，他对我们大家说，短期调整，正是补仓的好时机，让大家在1490点强力杀入，耐心等待，一直捂到1300点，后来就在2004年10.10前两天（周六俱乐部），他说行情看来还要往下走，大家要减仓，周一周二减仓，结果周三就是一根大阳线，到了1380点的时候，俱乐部杨百万又说可以买股票了，好好抱着，结果一头栽下来到了1250点。杨百万操作股票亏很多钱的，他不得不热衷于卖软件、邮件、讲课和招会员当中，靠这些钱来补贴他的亏损。他曾多次想拉我们同学中的一些人去在各各地方卖他的所谓的软件，由于我们知道是骗人的把戏，多数人都拒绝了，只有宁波的一个热情的答应了。其实，在证券市场有真才实学的，能够稳定的博取收益，谁会费那个力去搞什么会员，卖什么软件呢！我们一位同学总结的好：“在证券市场上，在前台跳着的，都是一些十足的小丑罢了。”
　　
　　我希望大家相互转告,告诉你的亲戚朋友,这个世界上没有什么高手，至少杨百万不是。杨百万是靠他在国库券上当搬运工出得名，加上这个嘴巴极其能吹牛，奉承统治者，让他成为吹喇叭的工具，博得虚名，以后的日子就是靠着些许名骗吃骗喝骗大家的钱财。这个人骗起人来是不要脸的。我们总结老杨“一个人如果决心不把自己当人看，有一千种畜生好当！”告诉你的亲戚朋友，让他们多一分警惕,多一分安全.为了不让更多的人们受伤,诚恳的希望看过的朋友随便顶一下,好让更多的朋友知道,有前车之鉴,以免重蹈覆辙.散户很散，没有凝聚力，没有组织，也没有关心，没有保护，只有冷漠，只有冷笑，只有受骗，只有受欺负，敌人正是利用了我们的冷漠来杀伤我们，不断的欺骗我们！杨百万赶走我们揭露他的一个兄弟时恶狠狠的说“不怕你说，你说了别人也不会相信！”这些骗子嘲笑我们！朋友们，不能坐以待毙！揭露这些骗人的人和事，不让更多的一个兄弟姐妹受伤害！朋友们，轻轻的顶一下，不要写什么，让其他的朋友可以轻松的看到这个帖子。不觉醒，冷笑只有变成苦笑。希望大家在未来的投资之路上一帆风顺！
　　
　　杨白万经常的几句话：
　　
　　1。散户是傻瓜，中国A股市场傻瓜多啊。
　　
　　2．散户就是韭菜，割了长，长了再割。
　　
　　3．我给这个散户吃了药了，他离不开我了，哈哈！（接散户电话后）
　　
　　3．我不在电话里咨询股票的，我又不了解你，我又没见过你，万一你是庄家机构的人怎么办？（钓鱼的技巧）
　　
　　4．不懂就要好好学啊，你有我的软件吗？你买一个软件和我一起学吧！（上钩）
　　
　　5．看指标啊，好好学习指标。你有我的邮件吗？每天我有一个盘后分析，你没有怎么跟我学啊。
　　
　　6．你要好好学习，不学习怎么能够炒股票呢？你要好好跟我学。
　　
　　7．你看我还可以吧！有人请我出来讲课，有钱拿，还有饭吃吃！
　　
　　8．我什么也没说啊，你说话要有证据。你可以上法院告我，愿意告就去告！
　　
　　杨百万是老江湖：
　　
　　1。如果他叫你买的股票跌了，你去问他，它就会说：“你这样不对阿，你心态不好怎么能做股票呢！”说得不懂的散户立刻不好意思，觉得都是自己水平差，心态不好。
　　
　　2．如果它叫你买的股票跌得很惨，它就装不知道。闭着眼睛吹口哨，把录音机打开听音乐。偶尔对眼了，它就指着你说：“你看，你看，你就是不会抛！”然后黑黑对你笑。
　　
　　3．杨白万经常旁敲侧击的对会员讲，很多人为人很差，没有人品，做股票怎么会没有风险呢？亏了就找别人闹，这样的人人品这么差怎么做股票！比如2003年底杨百万的一个室内学员因为亏损被证券交易公司平仓，全军覆没，该学员找杨百万说理，因为是杨百万叫她买的并且要捂住，最后因为亏损很大，被证券公司平仓，杨百万说投资总是有风险的，谁让你买得麻！你可以不买得麻，耍起了无赖。杨多次提到这个人，说这个人为人真是差得很。（他忘了他是收了别人的钱的，有义务为别人提供有价值的服务。）说得大家哑口无言，亏得很厉害也不好意思和杨百万翻脸。在2004年东方电子6.06分最高价，指挥全部的室内会员杀入，一直坚持握到3元多，一个会员但这支股票就亏损50%，二十多万元，该会远走的时候，脸色铁黑，一言不发。
　　
　　4．杨百万是个十足的骗子，其对骗术的研究程度远远高于对股票的认知度（它可以说不懂股票，我们很多学员的水平都远远的超过他，只因为一丝侥幸，慕其虚名，轻信了这贼）。在骗钱的过程中，杨狗有108种变化，正话正说，反话正说，反话反说，正话反说，贼喊捉贼，欲擒故纵，藏拙取巧，藏巧取拙，小恩小惠等等手法，让你防不胜防，反正一切目的都是把你的钱骗到手，布下陷阱诱惑你进来，然后随时变脸为鬼。等你摸透了，他已经吃饱喝足，最好骗你忍耐，做个品行好的人，有修养的人，道德高尚的人，最坏也不怕和你翻脸，反正，当初早有一手，没有任何书面合同，说过的话当然和放屁没有什么两样，立马翻脸为鬼，让你防不胜防。
　　
　　5．我们在学习期间，曾经多次看到媒体对杨百万的现场采访。杨百万摆弄三寸不烂之舌，吹得春花烂漫，一吹记者有水平，文采如花，妙笔有乾坤；二吹国家政策好，领袖风范高，人民生活好。记者们被杨百万玩得团团转，大家都各取所需。记者高兴的有的稿子写，有稿费拿，杨百万高兴的是涂抹变成了铅字，一分不花，做个广告。我们经历多次这种吹捧再吹捧的采访游戏，一对杨百万这无耻之徒的本来面目看得更加如骨三分，另外对我们的一些记者对真相的漠视大为失望，某些无冕之王也是混饭吃的东西！
　　
　　6．杨百万每次骗散户的绝招是他的所谓的几个指标。其实那完全是个骗人的东西。指标就是SLOWKD，把颜色改改，线条改改，搞个金叉死叉什么的，他所有的指标的编码我们都有，我们都会编，因为知道是个骗人的玩意儿，删掉不用了。杨原想拉我们入伙，去卖软件和邮件，去给他联系当地讲课赚钱（他的邮件就是从网上下载的股评家的文章），我们大多不肯。杨有其自圆其说的道理：我只对指标负责。指标是什么，指标是跟K线走的，K线涨指标就翘，K线跌指标就死叉，股市的涨与跌与指标有什么关系？！靠指标来测股市的涨与跌真是愚蠢之极。杨是个没有什么真本事的人，比我们中的一些人就差的太远了。实事求是地说，他股票投资的知识差的太远。
　　
　　我们为什么要写这些？本来我们可以哑口无言，吃个哑巴亏就可以了，我们为什么要说？
　　
　　1．我们经历太多散户上当的经历。不断的有人打电话来，谦虚地或诚恳地或愚昧的向杨百万请教，从而踏入了他的圈套，被玩于股掌之上。我们要告诉大家，没有这个必要，做股票不能指望别人。而杨百万如果不是从散户身上吸血，他根本不能在证券市场存活。
　　
　　2．一些不负责任的记者，敷衍了事的采访会不断的误导很多人，我们有必要出来疾呼。负责任吧，我们的某些记者！不要搞不负责任的采访！如果不是这些不负责任的采访，要少很多人上当。
　　
　　3．杨百万耍无赖的嘴脸实在令人讨厌。尽管刚开始的时候它打扮得像个实在的老实人。
　　
　　4．不要以为我们的智商很低，我们中的不少人都是有几百万的人。我们上当了，我们希望大家小心。
　　
　　5．杨百万赶走我们揭露他的一个兄弟时恶狠狠的说“不怕你说，你说了别人也不会相信！”这些骗子嘲笑我们！

Mr.Business

"另一名主讲者是MWE首席股市培训师，身份暂保密，他一生从未打过工，视投资终生事业，每月交易值过千万令吉。他将分出席者分享他的实战经验，以搞清楚 市场的神秘与奥妙的一面。"

"他也是本地著名的电视财经评述员兼财经专栏作者，每周分析股市及棕油期货走势，是一名经验丰富的交易员。"

有趣，不知道谁是那神秘人？


2008年股市展望 24日吉隆坡举行 2008/01/18 13:15:42
●南洋商报

(吉隆坡17日讯)2008年伊始，本地股市大幅波动，接下来走势如何？要如何布局搭上大选涨潮列车？MARKET WIZARDS ENTERPRISE（简称MWE）约定您出席本月24日在吉隆坡，以及本月27日在新山举行的“2008年股市展望”讲座。

由MWE主办，南洋商报协办的股市讲座，MWE两位名师将毫无保留，本着教育广大散户投资者，让您更了解股市的变动，掌握股市最新的资讯与趋势，让您捉紧先机。

他们会与出席者分析2008年股市走势，世界原油、棕油市场大涨给本地带来什么好处，即将举行的全国大选会给股市吹什么风？要如何布局搭上大选涨潮？也将会一一揭开股市神秘的一面。

主讲嘉宾之一的刘文辉是以交易为生的超人气股市讲师，将分析影响股市的海内外因素，要注意的一些事项，以及曾经多次推介股市优质股项，使股友从涨势中受惠。刘文辉也是股市的专栏作者。

另一名主讲者是MWE首席股市培训师，身份暂保密，他一生从未打过工，视投资终生事业，每月交易值过千万令吉。他将分出席者分享他的实战经验，以搞清楚 市场的神秘与奥妙的一面。

他也是本地著名的电视财经评述员兼财经专栏作者，每周分析股市及棕油期货走势，是一名经验丰富的交易员。

请勿错过第1场定干1月24日（星期四），晚上7时45分，在吉隆坡中华大会堂，以及第2场定于1月27日（星期日），下午2时半至4时半，在新山MUTIARA HOTEL举行的“2008年股市展望”讲座会。

http://www.nanyang.com/index.php?ch=7&pg=12&ac=806907

Mr.Business

"股神"真多。

更新: June 19, 2008 18:26

百人上當．憤而報警
“股神”捲走百萬
（新加坡19日訊）誤信股神能幫他們賺取巨額利潤，百多人被騙走數百萬令吉，其中一名女郎更被騙走50萬美金（約162萬令吉）！

這名從事資訊科技業的女郎說，她是通過朋友認識了30多歲的投資公司老闆，老闆聲稱他投資股票的眼光獨到，很多人聽信他的話，紛紛掏錢交給他投資，果然頭幾個月都能賺取本金的5至10%利潤。

就這樣，大家真的把他當成“股神”，拿出更多的錢給他投資，沒想到幾個月后，“股神”突然失去蹤影，大家所投資的錢如石沉大海，再也拿不回來。

許多人為了追回血汗錢，于是向警方報案，這才發現，原來上當的人已經超過百人。

簽三七分賬合約

其中10名受害者向記者投訴，要揭發“股神”的真面目。他們聲稱被騙走的金額超過百萬令吉，當中包括被騙走50萬美金的女郎。

女郎說，她是在去年底通過朋友認識“股神”，把50萬美金交給對方。“可是我只拿了第一個月的2000新元（約4759令吉），之后就沒有下文了。”

另一名43歲的銷售協調員說，她在前年把20萬新元（約47萬令吉）交給股神，簽下三七分賬的合約。

“去年底，他更改合約，不過保證每個月會給我5.5%的利息，可是我只拿了3個月，他就沒再聯絡我了。

女銷售協調員說，她前后總共拿了6萬多新元（約14萬令吉），今年初，她要求關閉戶頭取回本金，可是股神簽了3張支票給她，卻都是空頭支票。

http://www.chinapress.com.my/con ... mp;art=0620mb66.txt

守护神9413

新加坡人真是有钱

江百虎

原帖由 守护神9413 于 20-6-2008 01:10 PM 发表
新加坡人真是有钱

有錢也要有頭腦才行啊。。。

laucsandli

个人認为,股神只不过叫些散戶接货或者推高吧了.

股友

五十万美金被骗，不如我自己拿来输。

Mr.Business

重温有20亿新币身家的新加坡股神

Tuesday, July 17, 2007
The Remisier King Speaks.


- Photo taken from the Straits Times -

(SINGAPORE) Peter Lim, the man formerly known as the 'Remisier King' and who is estimated to be worth more than $2 billion today, reckons the stock market still has two good years to go. But he is getting concerned about the property market.

The good life: Nowadays, Mr Lim spends his time dispensing advice to deal-makers in the industry - and sends them a bill of $300K for it

'The market won't collapse for the next two, three years. It's all sentiment-driven. People are making more money, and so long as people are spending, we are OK. But one has got to start to think how to exit at the end of 2-3 years - 2009, before the casino starts operating,' he said.

Mr Lim is, of course, well known as an influential stockbroker and deal-maker in the Singapore and Malaysian markets in the early 1990s. That was also when he made his millions, but quit at his peak to take care of divorce proceedings.

Despite being out of the industry, it was in the last few years that his fortunes took a leap forward, thanks to the booming stock market. He was recently in the news for agreeing to put $150 million into Rowsley for its reverse takeover of a China solar company.

In a near four-hour interview with BT to talk about his market views and investment philosophy, Mr Lim said a lot of the big companies listed on the Singapore Exchange (SGX) today have a global presence.

Like Keppel Corp, for instance; it can't fulfil all the orders for its oil rigs. So even if there is a shift in investor sentiment and the market corrects severely, investors can still ride out the whole cycle, said Mr Lim - barring a global recession, of course.

The danger, he said, is in the small-cap sector. 'Some of these stocks have gone up a lot. Much of the potential has been priced in. If this potential is cut short by any unexpected unfortunate event, they will come down like a rock.'

Small-cap stocks run up fast because of their small float. But when the sentiment turns, everyone is a seller, he said.

As for the property market, Mr Lim thinks prices have gone up too fast. The sharp increase has taken everyone by surprise, even the government. 'Actually, it's quite simple. Singapore is small. You get a small bucket, and pour a lot of water, it'll overflow. This is what's happening. I think the demand just comes together at the same time. I don't think it's sustainable.'

Demand is so strong that people are knocking down buildings, and that's curtailing supply even more.

But the thing is, the buildings knocked down will have three times more apartments when they get rebuilt a few years down the road. 'When the supply comes out, property prices will drop,' he said.

Comparisons have been drawn between Singapore and London. 'But you tell me: how many en bloc (redevelopments) do they have in London? No en blocs means no additional supply.' he said.

Mr Lim is worried about the impact of high rentals on businesses - office rentals have gone up by 200-300 per cent in the last few years. 'Costs are going to bloat . . . most businesses' margins are going to be eaten up by costs.'

At the moment, many individuals and companies are making money from asset inflation, he said. 'You hope that this asset inflation becomes an income, becomes regular. But I don't think so. These are all situational. But it will go one day.

'I'm not a pessimist, but this is how I see it. That's why at the end of a bull market, you see a new generation coming up. Because all the old ones die. Now and then, you see one of those who stays - then he becomes a legend. And if you observe those legends, most of the time, they spend their time scolding people: 'don't gear, don't gamble'.'

And that exactly was the message that he kept harping on during the interview.

'A lot of people get it wrong. When the bull market is here, they build debts. Bull market is the time to build cash. Because today's market turns very quickly. When the market turns, you cannot sell, especially for the property market. You can only sell when things are going up.

'So I always tell my friends: 'Make sure you stay alive. The market won't die, so there's always a next time.' '

By BT's estimates, Mr Lim is worth in excess of $2 billion. He has just under 5 per cent in Wilmar International. Based on the company's current market capitalisation of $22 billion on SGX, that stake alone is worth $1.11 billion. He has about 11 per cent in FJ Benjamin, and that's worth $52.6 million. Meanwhile, his 25 per cent stake in Rowsley has a market value of $37 million. So his Singapore equities alone are worth $1.2 billion. On top of that, he has some Australian mining stocks bought in the 1970s and '80s.

Mr Lim says 50 per cent of his portfolio is now in equities, another 10 per cent in properties and the remaining 40 per cent in cash. The cash is from the dividends he received, which he has not reapplied to the market. So all in, he's worth more than $2.4 billion.

The 54-year-old believes that the fortune he has today is pre-destined. 'This size - substantially, it's your destiny. If today I have $10 million, I'd say over 90 per cent is due to my hard work. But getting it right is not $1 billion. Maybe it's $100 million. How that $100 million becomes $1 billion, you know it's because somebody likes you. You must believe it's somehow a path that's been drawn.'

The bulk of his net worth is in Wilmar, in which he was asked to pump in under $10 million in the early 1990s. By the second half of the decade, he had totally written off that investment. That was when the Indonesian currency fell from 2,500 rupiah against the US dollar (the exchange rate he invested in Wilmar), to 16,000 rupiah, and president Suharto was ousted. There were riots in Indonesia. There was no way of cashing out the assets. But in a few years, things stabilised in Indonesia and the pieces began to come together for Wilmar. Its China operations began to pick up, businessman Robert Kuok decided to inject his Malaysian palm oil operations into Wilmar and palm oil prices started to go through the roof because of the scramble to produce biofuels.

'My Indonesian partner was asking me the other day: 'How the hell did we make so much money?' '

'Up to a point after people tell you a story and a vision, don't write it off. Sometimes it comes true. You just make sure that if it doesn't come true, you don't get hurt too much,' he said.

The most important factor to consider when investing in a company is the person running it; you look at whether the person is honest, and whether he or she is master of their trade.

'It works. It's a tested method of assessing companies,' Mr Lim said.

Wilmar is not his only lucky break. He escaped the Asian crisis as he had quit the broking profession in 1996 to prepare for his divorce proceedings. And he spent the next six months liquidating most of his stock positions. So when the crisis hit, he was mostly in cash.

He was also not in the market during the dotcom bubble as the hearing on the division of matrimonial assets dragged on until 2001. He thanks his lucky stars for having avoided the Asian financial crisis, but thinks he would not have been caught in the insanity of the dotcom bubble.

Nowadays, Mr Lim spends his time dispensing advice to deal-makers in the industry - and sends them a bill of $300,000 or more for it. He still gets a thrill out of structuring deals, which he says is similar to a chess game.

He described the recent Rowsley deal to acquire a solar energy company in China as 'beautiful', as one which allows existing shareholders to 'lock in the upside, but hedge the downside'.

He's also having to cope with the problems of having too much money. He worries if his children, a 15-year-old girl and 13-year-old boy, will be spoilt by his wealth. He reckons he may give the bulk of his money to charity eventually.

But going by the four-hour lunches that he takes - with Imperial Treasure at Great World City being his Canteen No 1 and Kuriya his Canteen No 2 - and sometimes squeezing in a game of tennis or two before dinner, the money problem can't be all that bad.

HIS VIEWS ON . . .

Cutting deals

Maybe it's in the blood. It's quite exciting to pitch a deal, to make sure that you don't catch me. It's like a chess game: you make this move, the next one I make. I don't want to get checkmate.

Wealth

Money is a funny thing. When you don't have it, you want it. But when you have it, you have a lot of problems. I believe that if I'd had no money, I wouldn't have had my divorce. Things wouldn't be good, but it wouldn't end up in a divorce.

Growing old

Once you are old, every year makes a lot of difference. Your lease gets shorter, there's no extension. You go, you go.

Death

Some of my school mates have passed away. So once you start to see all these things, your perspective on life becomes more measured, more considered.

Making money

It's very difficult to make money from trading. People who get rich are those who buy a company, build it, run it. Most of the traders, they come, they make money, because they have this gambling instinct. They take the money and spend it. The minute they lose money, they got no money to pay up.

The next downturn

Today's bull run can get cut short by a number of things. Just like our recent experience with Sars, or a bomb drops on the wrong person's head. Like anything else, the least expected thing can happen at the wrong time. I got a feeling the next downturn will be very severe.

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[ 本帖最后由 Mr.Business 于 23-6-2008 11:02 AM 编辑 ]

cari288

相对的，马来西亚股神 非蔡马友 莫属了。大家认同吗？

股友

嘻嘻，蔡麻仔是股神那苏启蚊也是股神了。两人无须学什么技术基本价值分析，只要攀附权贵就可以了。说起来林细隆也是前股神，27岁的时候，就获得12亿令吉的贷款来收购3家上市公司。

cari288

oops！！ 原来他是朋党之一。那么，谁是马来西亚股神呢？？

股友

９２／９３年很多。。。。。

cari288

Who? Repco ?

股友

这家伙真的神，把sime bank和一家美国基金搞垮了都告不进。三年前知道他买了块地当小园主，乐得逍遥快活，偶尔part time一下散庄。iris，kosmo都有他的影子。

titotito

"Before casino start 2009"

2009 好，我们等看看，
九月F1开跑先升温热热了

cari288

可是他是另一类的。他是庄家，不是相巴菲那样 以选股投资为主的。

Mr.Business

原帖由 cari288 于 23-6-2008 12:14 PM 发表
相对的，马来西亚股神 非蔡马友 莫属了。大家认同吗？

在报纸看过他女儿的照片，年轻又美丽，还是她老爸的地产公司的CEO。。。

cari288

喂！X 心末尽，X X X X   ？？ hahaha！
不要鸟我，开玩笑而以。

[ 本帖最后由 cari288 于 25-6-2008 06:19 PM 编辑 ]