有谁为宝宝收脐带血？

thym

我的医生也说了类式的话 ！ 他说如果到时候真的要用可以到Singapore 买。因为Singapore都会帮宝宝收脐 ...
LoveBB01 发表于 5-7-2011 01:17 AM

    是可以的，听说大概卖新币$35,000，但也要找到适合的。

teohph84

之前我在MV的妈妈宝宝FAIR里有坐下cryocroc的柜台了解情况!!根据那位专业的工作人员的解说,现在可 ...
ivory1583 发表于 1-7-2011 01:29 PM

没有任何人可以担保五瓶就能用五次。那是要看病情的轻重再由医生来决定！
通常都只能用一次！
注入越多干细胞，康复的机会越高！
宝宝本身100%，兄弟姐妹25-80%，父母0-50%

teohph84

我有个医生朋友，它也是没为他的孩子收脐带血。他说没有什么用处咯。所以我没收。再说，本地的医学技术 ...
Sh-ong 发表于 1-7-2011 02:32 PM

马来西亚已经有很多成功用干细胞来做移植的手术了！

teohph84

我有帮我女儿收哦。如果想了解更多可以约他们出来讲解给你们听。之前我就听了3家才决定的！！
Violet82 发表于 1-7-2011 02:38 PM

那你选择哪一家？

teohph84

我的医生也说了类式的话 ！ 他说如果到时候真的要用可以到Singapore 买。因为Singapore都会帮宝宝收脐 ...
LoveBB01 发表于 5-7-2011 01:17 AM

在新加坡，政府都会鼓励人们储存，就算你不打算储存，当地政府会要你捐出你宝宝的脐带血。因为不止新加坡政府，还有很多国家都看到它的重要性，都呼吁人们储存

teohph84

大家有没有想过为什么先进国家的政府会帮他们的人民收藏？如果没有用的话为什么要花这么多钱？还 ...
fhchoong 发表于 5-7-2011 01:06 PM

赞 X10000000000000000000000000000

nasiep3

有存，以防万一。。
四千多，就当买个保险。。
因为会怕，事事无绝对，不然到时候，有一百万都不一定找到适合的。。

ping89

回复 1# fhchoong


    http://baby.sina.com.cn/qidaixue/index.shtml

Evol82

我没能力所以没收

lx_5662

我有收，cellsafe的。应该只会收一次。第二胎不打算收了。个人觉得应该收一次。

cycad

我有一篇的文章想跟大家分享，抱歉是英文的：
我决定不收藏我宝宝脐带血。

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Sunday June 3, 2007
Storing cord blood
By DR NG SOO CHIN

Private cord blood banking – some salient questions and straight answers.

EXPECTING parents are faced with a lot of important decisions before their baby is born. These include the basics, such as what to name the baby, which hospital and doctors to go to, breastfeeding vs. formula feeding, etc.

And more and more, they have to consider the issue of whether or not to bank or store their baby’s umbilical cord blood (UCB) and in Malaysia, which company to bank with since there are now three competing companies!

What does the umbilical cord blood contain?

The presence of haematopoietic stem cells is the cell of interest. Compared to stem cells form bone marrow, the UCB stem cells are more primitive and more “naive”, and as a result, allogeneic transplant can be done with only a partial HLA matched.

There is likely presence of other cells of importance such as the mesenchymal and neural precursor cells, which may be grown into other lineages such as, cartilage, fat, hepatic or cardiac cell under suitable environment.

What are the difference between public or community cord blood banking and private cord blood banking?

The public cord bank or community cord blood bank received cord blood from voluntary donors and they are typed and stored for anyone who needs to use it.

The bank is usually affiliated to a university and is run as a non-profit organisation. The centre that requests for the cord blood for use for specific patients will need to pay a fixed sum to the public cord bank to defray the expenses incur in collection, typing and storage of the cord blood.

The private cord blood banks cater for the individual family who chooses to store the baby’s UCB at time of birth. The parents concerned will need to pay for the collection and storage fees. They are run as a business concern and not infrequently, there were criticisms of hard- selling their services.

There are currently three companies that provide such services in Malaysia and not surprisingly there is a tough fight for the clients who can afford such services.

Another consideration now in many who are starting families is whether to store their baby’s cord blood. – AP
What is the long-term viability of frozen cord blood?

So far, recovery of viable stem cells from cord blood is over 90% at 15 years. In theory, it should be possible to store cells for millenia at -196 degrees Celsius, the temperature of liquid nitrogen.

Below -130 degrees Celsius, no liquid water exists in cells, which prevents biochemical reactions between molecules dissolved in water. At -196 degrees Celsius there is not enough thermal energy in the cell to drive any biochemical reaction. The only degradation that can occur at this temperature is reactions caused by cosmic background radiation.

It can be calculated that, at normal terrestrial conditions, it would take about 2000 years before such reactions caused a significant amount of damage.

What are the potential benefits of collecting and storing umbilical cord blood?

If one reads through a brochure on private cord banking, UCB storage is branded as a form of medical insurance and it can be used for treatment of both malignant and benign blood disorders. Because umbilical cord blood contains a rich source of hematopoietic stem cells and progenitor cells, it has been effective as an alternative allogeneic donor source in a variety of paediatric genetic, haematologic, immunologic, and oncologic disorders.

cycad

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The potential uses in regenerative medicine and degenerative disorders such as Parkinson’s diseases are generally highlighted.

What do the cord bank operators fail to tell you?

The amount of stem cells harvested in the UCB will fall short of the minimum number required for stem cell or bone marrow transplant if the kid grows up to more than 100 pounds!

On average, a cord blood sample contains 8.6 million nucleated cells per millilitre, and a successful transplant requires harvesting 1 millilitre of cord blood per pound of patient weight.

There are intense research going on to expand the cells in vivo and there are anecdotal reports of such success, but it is not going to be easy and certainly will be an expensive undertaking.

Certain childhood malignancy such as the common acute lymphoblastic leukaemia (ALL) is unlikely to benefit much from autologous UCB transplantation.

What is the chance of using the stored cord blood?

The probability that the average child will require a transplant of her own stem cells before age 20 has been estimated as 4 in 10,000 (.04%). Current estimates place the chances of a child needing to use his or her own cord blood sample at somewhere between 1 in 1,000 and 1 in 200,000.

However, over the course of a lifetime up to age 70, the probability that a person will require a transplant of her own stem cells is 1 in 450 (0.23%), and the likelihood of requiring any transplant, from yourself or a sibling, is 1 in 220 (0.46%).

In other words it is not a common occurrence, especially in the childhood when stem cell transplant is needed

What are the recommendations of the Professional bodies?

The American Association of Paediatrics in the latest 2007 policy statement stated that private UCB storage as “biological insurance” should be discouraged. There is not enough evidence to support the routine harvesting and storage of umbilical cord.

The AAP panel express concern that “families may be vulnerable to emotional marketing (from private blood banks) at the time of birth of a child and may look to their physicians for advice.” They point out that the vast majority of children will never require the use of stored cord blood.

The AAP experts conclude that because the potential uses of cord blood remain extremely “limited”, cord blood banking should only be considered “if there is a family member with a current or potential need to undergo a stem cell transplantation.”

On the other hand, they encourage parents to donate cord blood “at no cost” to national stem cell banks, in much the same that organs are donated to help strangers in need. Parents should give informed consent before donating cord blood, and contact between the donor family and blood bank should be maintained in case “a genetic disease or (leukaemia) develops” within the donor family.

The Royal College of Obstetrics and Gynaecology of United Kingdom in 2006 proclaimed that “?there is insufficient evidence to recommend directed commercial UCB collection and storage in low risk families”.

The European Group in Ethnics in Science and New Technologies in 2004 wrote to the European Commission that the legitimacy of commercial cord blood bank for autologous or own use should be questioned as they sell a service, which has presently, no real use regarding therapeutic options. Thus they provide more than they can deliver. The activities of such banks raised serious ethnical criticisms.

The same group recommended any kind of advertisement by commercial cord blood bank in the media, including the internet, must be adequately controlled by public authorities. The support for public cord bank should be increased

What are the latest results of UCB transplants?

The use of umbilical cord blood to treat a wide variety of diseases is a relatively new and growing technology. More than 5,500 unrelated-donor cord blood stem cell transplantations have been performed for malignancies, bone marrow failure, haemoglobinopathies, immunodeficiencies, and inborn errors of metabolism.

Cord blood may be superior to bone marrow stem cell transplantation because of greater availability, a reduced risk for graft-vs-host disease, and less risk for blood-borne illness.

However, autologous cord blood has less potential to treat diseases such as leukaemia because the genetic traits for cancer exist within the blood sample destined for transplantations.

Historically UCB transplants have significantly high mortality due largely due to slow engraftment of stem cells. A new innovate approach using double cord blood collection seemed to improve the transplant results.

If double cord turns out to be the transplant format of choice, it would mean the storage of own UCB is an inadequate exercise as one still has to source for another cord blood collection.

What if I have not stored my child’s cord blood and he/she is struck with the dreaded illness mentioned, is she/he doomed?

Take a deep breath and calm down. You could search from the public cord blood bank or from the bone marrow registry for potential donors if no sibling matched donor is forth-coming.

Some types of cancer with genetic basis e.g. acute lymphoblastic leukaemia (ALL) may be best treated with stem cells form allogeneic source or different persons.

How do I feel (does it matter?) about the whole thing?

In an ideal world, all children should have their UCB stored but for the expenses and logistics involved.

I have no problems with people storing cord blood for own use later. Neither have I had any qualms about private companies collecting storing cord blood stem cells.

My concern is that as consumers, the parents are not being presented with the whole truth and this is not acceptable from a viewpoint of good clinical practice.

I am also concerned about the “entrapment syndrome” – the private cord blood Co can present various reasons to up their fees in the future and I don’t think the consumers have very little to fight back. What if the company folds?

Despite being claimed as a form of medical insurance, I agreed with Dr Mitchell Cairo (paediatric oncologist and stem cell researcher) that insurance should have a definable pay-offs and not on theoretical considerations.

Perhaps, parents should instead invest on educational or health insurance for the baby rather than on something nebulous as private cord blood banking!

References:

1. Kobylka, P., et al. 1998, Transplantation, 65(9):1275-1278.

2. Mazur P. 1988, Ann NY Acad Sci. 541:514-31. “Stopping biological time. The freezing of living cells”

3. W Reed, et al, Blood 2003; 101(1):351

4. FL Johnson, 1997; J Ped Hem Onc 19(3): 183-186

5. Pasquini, MC, Logan, BR, Verter, F, Horowitz, MM, & Nietfeld, JJ 2005 ASH meeting poster#5260

6. Pediatrics. 2007;119:165-170

7. Royal college of Obstetrics and Gynecology: Scientific advisory committee opinion paper 2:June 2006

Disclaimer: The author is a consultant haematologist and he has no personal interest in any of the private cord blood companies. This article was also published in Berita MMA (Malaysian Medical Association) April issue.

SiawTing

明年一月中生产，现在跟老公也在商量着要不要存脐带血！
前阵子去了婴儿展，有向一间公司了解他们的配套，价钱确实不便宜
也有向医生取得意见，如果有就等于多个保障，像买保险一样！
有存，日后如果有什么问题需要用到，至少还有一个希望
（兄弟姐妹间也有一半的机率是合适，父母亲的机率就比较低）
没存，就祈祷能找到合适的人作捐赠，也不懂等不等到

SiawTing

我在婴儿展问到SL的价钱，可以跟大家分享：
Processing Fee 是首年的费用RM2250，然后Storage Fee是RM250一年。

配套1
Processing Fee: RM2250 （可以12个月分期付款）
先Deposit RM300，然后RM165 X 11期，RM135 X 1期。
然后每一年要另外付 storage fee RM250

配套2
Storage Fee RM250 X 20年 = RM5000 （折扣50%）= RM2500
Processing Fee = RM2250
存到小孩21岁，全包RM4750                          
分期付款：先Deposit RM300，然后RM375 X 11期，RM325 X 1期。

fhchoong

我的医生也是这样说。。。 他说只有三种人会保存。。。
    一，是林国泰的家人。。。二，是李家 ...
KSF 发表于 7-7-2011 03:16 PM

    你说的以上三种人都不需要存，因为他们太有钱，就好像一个真正有钱的人是不买保险一样，反而是我们这些没什么钱人但又在能力范围里的人才卖的，真正不需要的有两种，笫一就是很有钱的人，一两百万医药费根本不是问题。第二就是完全没能力的人，当真的有问题时就找人帮忙捐，没有的话只要等死。每个人的价值观都不一样，我的话，价钱在我能力范围里面所以我会存。

miuwiubeauty

我会收。签了sxxlife配套。收21年。给300订金，11期RM375，第12期RM325共 RM4750。

如果有什么因素而收不到，他们连300订金也会退回。你生产第二天后他们就让你知道可不可以收。再送到kl做化验。大概一个月内出报告是否肯定能收。

yeejess83

刚在baby fair签了StxmLifx...

jackchp

没有收。。。。

我太太的2为侄儿/侄女都是在美国出世。。。。
我问了美国收集极带血的状况。。。才知道原来美国根本不流行的。。。。美国医生也不鼓励。。。
只有这里被包装到漂漂亮亮。。。。。吸引客子。。。。。