卡塔尔买24架天价阵风，单价RM10.5亿马币！

cyberjaye

油国真的是任性。。。天价4代机都买的下手。
5代机都有少过10亿马币的啊！


France and Qatar seal $7 billion Rafale fighter jet deal[size=1.2em]PARIS [size=1.2em]| [size=1.2em]BY JOHN IRISH AND CYRIL ALTMEYER

(Reuters) - Qatar has agreed to buy 24 Dassault Aviation-built Rafale fighter jets in a 6.3-billion-euro (4.55 billion pounds) deal, the French government said on Thursday, as the Gulf Arab state looks to boost its military firepower in an increasingly unstable region.

[size=1.6em]Tensions in the Middle East with conflicts in Yemen, Syria and Libya, as well as concerns over Shi'ite Muslim power Iran's growing influence in the area, have fuelled a desire across Sunni Gulf Arab states to modernise their military hardware.

[size=1.6em]The contract - the third this year for Dassault after deals to sell Rafale jets to Egypt and India - also includes MBDA missiles, and the training of 36 Qatari pilots and 100 technicians by the French army, a French Defence Ministry official said.

[size=1.6em]"The president spoke to Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, the Emir of Qatar, who confirmed his desire to buy 24 Rafale combat planes," President Francois Hollande's office said.

[size=1.6em]Eleven planes will be delivered each year from mid-2018. Dassault Chief Executive Eric Trappier told BFM TV Qatar had an option to buy 12 more planes.

[size=1.6em]Hollande will travel to Doha on May 4 to sign the contract before heading to Saudi Arabia as an honorary guest at a summit of Gulf Arab leaders.

[size=1.6em]Paris has close commercial and political ties with Qatar and Hollande will push further business interests in the country as well as encourage investment into France, where the gas-rich Gulf state already has assets of about $10 billion.

[size=1.6em]Qatar - home to Al Udeid, the largest U.S. air base in the Middle East - has been a major player in air strikes in the region despite its limited air force, mainly made-up of Dassault-built Mirage warplanes.

[size=1.6em]http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/04/30/uk-france-qatar-rafale-idUKKBN0NL0RE20150430

[size=1.6em]

alex92

土豪的世界，我不懂

某某某某

Rafael最近大卖哦，是回扣更多吗？

cyberjaye

某某某某 发表于 4-5-2015 09:50 AM
Rafael最近大卖哦，是回扣更多吗？

英雄所见！

我也是有这样的感觉，可能故意调高售价到单价8亿以上然后佣金给到sepuluh dua。

回扣给多了，M国的领导也会很有兴趣的。

某某某某

cyberjaye 发表于 4-5-2015 10:17 AM
英雄所见！

我也是有这样的感觉，可能故意调高售价到单价8亿以上然后佣金给到sepuluh dua。 ...

两年前的lima时不就传出m国要买吗？最后怎样了？

cyberjaye

某某某某 发表于 4-5-2015 11:29 AM
两年前的lima时不就传出m国要买吗？最后怎样了？

是    记者自己传，而且还说18架才70亿！
结果是谎言！
M国高官说要展延，而且租鹰狮或台风也是另一个选项。

某某某某

cyberjaye 发表于 4-5-2015 11:40 AM
是    记者自己传，而且还说18架才70亿！
结果是谎言！
M国高官说要展延，而且租鹰狮或台风 ...

M国的空军就像小号的印度style万国牌空军，高官都吃到肚子大大粒，真心打起仗来后勤还不骂娘吗

cyberjaye

alex92 发表于 3-5-2015 02:40 PM
土豪的世界，我不懂

中文版新闻出来了~~

卡塔尔向法国购买２４架“阵风”战斗机


2015年05月05日


新华网多哈５月４日电（记者杨元勇）卡塔尔埃米尔塔米姆４日与来访的法国总统奥朗德在首都多哈举行会谈，双方达成一项卡塔尔向法国购买２４架“阵风”战斗机的协议。

　　法国达索公司、ＭＢＤＡ公司和卡塔尔军方的代表分别代表两国在合同上签字。合同总额为６３亿欧元，其中购买战机费用为５２亿欧元，其余为培训等其他费用。根据合同，法国将为卡塔尔培训３６名“阵风”战机飞行员和１００名机械师，并提供其他技术服务等。

　　塔米姆与奥朗德在会谈中还讨论了双边关系、地区局势等问题。双方认为卡塔尔和法国加强在国防和安全领域的合作很有必要，并强调要在安全领域建立战略伙伴关系。双方还表示将加强两国在金融、投资等领域的合作，并尽快确定相关项目。

　　“阵风”属法国新一代多用途战斗机，能够执行空战、对地面或海面目标攻击等任务，最大起飞重量约２１吨，最大平飞速度为２马赫左右，作战半径约１０００公里。


http://news.xinhuanet.com/world/2015-05/05/c_1115174421.htm

cyberjaye

某某某某 发表于 4-5-2015 04:59 PM
M国的空军就像小号的印度style万国牌空军，高官都吃到肚子大大粒，真心打起仗来后勤还不骂娘吗

最省是买F18, 价格和后勤都省

某某某某

cyberjaye 发表于 5-5-2015 01:14 PM
最省是买F18, 价格和后勤都省

怎么说价格和后勤都省?

cyberjaye

某某某某 发表于 5-5-2015 01:19 PM
怎么说价格和后勤都省?

因为F18售价低一些，后勤省是因为M国已有几架F18.

某某某某

cyberjaye 发表于 5-5-2015 01:40 PM
因为F18售价低一些，后勤省是因为M国已有几架F18.

你是说如果买F-18F?哦原来如此，但一样是弹药，配件就不一定咯，GE F404 vs F414

detectivebinbin

科威特好像向订购了订购了40架F/A-18E/F超级大黄蜂～油钱国家就是不一样……

cyberjaye

detectivebinbin 发表于 7-5-2015 09:40 PM
科威特好像向订购了订购了40架F/A-18E/F超级大黄蜂～油钱国家就是不一样……

是啊！

台风到手的鸭子就快要飞掉了。

Boeing, Kuwait Said Near Deal for Up To 40 Super Hornets

By Christopher P. Cavas
7 p.m. EDT May 6, 2015

WASHINGTON — Boeing could be the latest international aircraft-maker to garner a deal for more fighter aircraft, with word that the US government is nearing agreement to sell up to 40 F/A-18 E and F Super Hornet strike fighters to Kuwait.

The deal, first reported Wednesday by Reuters, has yet to be officially announced by either the US or Kuwait, but officials in Washington have confirmed an agreement is close.

Any deal will would require approval from the US Congress, but it's unlikely a proposed sale to Kuwait, a staunch US ally in the Persian Gulf, would meet serious opposition.

A major Super Hornet sale would breathe new life into the Boeing production line, which is working on new aircraft for the US Navy and Australia, but which will deliver the last of those aircraft by the end of 2017. Boeing officials have said production of two aircraft per month, or 24 per year, is necessary to keep the St. Louis, Missouri production line at the break-even point, although a slightly slower rate can be managed. Continued procurement of the aircraft by either the Navy or a foreign customer would keep the line economically viable and aide further international sales.

The Navy has not officially requested any Super Hornet variants since the 2014 budget. But Congress added fifteen EA-18G Growler electronic attack variants into the 2015 defense acts, and the service listed 12 Super Hornets in its 2016 unfunded requirements list. In its markup last week of the 2016 defense authorization act, the House Armed Services committee added $1.2 billion to buy the 12 aircraft – a first step in getting Super Hornets into the full defense bills.

"A near-term international sale would be great news for Boeing and the Navy," said Caroline Hutcheson, a Boeing spokesperson in Washington. "It's important to note that the combination of a major sale along with funding for the 12 Super Hornets in the Navy's unfunded requirements list would allow us to continue producing jets without a break in the line."

Hutcheson referred specific comment on foreign military sales to the US government. Neither Navy or State Department officials would comment on the record.

Boeing has lost out in recent competitions to non-US manufacturers, notably in Brazil to the Swedish Saab Gripen, and in India to the French Dassault Rafale. The company is pinning hopes on selling Super Hornets to Denmark and possibly Canada, but those countries are still partners in the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program.

In Kuwait, Boeing had been up against the Eurofighter Typhoon. Kuwait tentatively agreed in early 2014 to go with the Typhoon, but subsequently backed off.

It is not yet clear how many single-seat F/A-18Es and two-seat F/A-18Fs are involved in the Kuwait deal. Some media accounts reported a deal for 28 of the Boeing aircraft, while US sources indicate as many as 40 F/A-18s could be sold. It's estimated the value of the deal would be greater than $3 billion.

alex92

遜尼派獨大了，現在美國想放伊朗出來平衡

cyberjaye

alex92 发表于 7-5-2015 10:21 PM
遜尼派獨大了，現在美國想放伊朗出來平衡

阵风M88发动机怎么改装潜力也不如台风的EJ200
如果M国买16架也要RM160亿。。。

法国先前一直苦于找不到“阵风”战机的海外买家，近来终于有所突破，接连拿下埃及、印度和这次卡塔尔的订单。

　　特拉皮耶说，这次军售是“达索的成功”，给其他海湾国家“起了个好头”，因为其他国家会看到“阵风”战机的良好性能。他说，虽然卡塔尔是沙漠国家，但这次军售将带来“雪球效应”。

　　特拉皮耶说，科威特正在评估“阵风”战机。另外，达索还在游说马来西亚购买16架“阵风”战机，并与阿拉伯联合酋长国恢复有关“阵风”战机合同的谈判。法国外交部长洛朗·法比尤斯先前说，与阿联酋有关售卖“阵风”的磋商正“朝着正确方向”发展。

http://news.sohu.com/20150506/n412454518.shtml

detectivebinbin

cyberjaye 发表于 8-5-2015 11:41 PM
阵风M88发动机怎么改装潜力也不如台风的EJ200
如果M国买16架也要RM160亿。。。

馬來西亞皇家空軍的戰機中隊編制不是18架為標準嗎？怎麼遊說購買16架了？其實以現今先進戰機的性能，在考量維護成本方面，是否真有必要維持18架的編制呢？或許1中隊中型先進多功能戰機的綜合戰力就比以往上一代輕型戰機強多了～

cyberjaye

detectivebinbin 发表于 9-5-2015 10:05 AM
馬來西亞皇家空軍的戰機中隊編制不是18架為標準嗎？怎麼遊說購買16架了？其實以現今先進戰機的性能，在考 ...

看看F18才买了8架就半途而废


其实MRCA买16架或8架也不是不可能


M国就是pattern多，你说对吗？

风大..浪高

cyberjaye 发表于 8-5-2015 03:41 PM
阵风M88发动机怎么改装潜力也不如台风的EJ200
如果M国买16架也要RM160亿。。。

又说印度大选变天阵风完蛋？有    的真的很黑，运气真的带     了？
敢敢讲大话，说阵风战机厂将面临倒闭或关厂的风险 neh !

结果，阵风接二连三卖出，埃及，印度，卡达尔在短短两个月，先后宣布购买阵风，阵风 Go Go GO！
Wow，     连续被打脸，真的可怜。
情何以堪？

[img][/img]

cyberjaye

detectivebinbin 发表于 9-5-2015 10:05 AM
馬來西亞皇家空軍的戰機中隊編制不是18架為標準嗎？怎麼遊說購買16架了？其實以現今先進戰機的性能，在考 ...

阵风被  黑了几年，结果一架都签不成。
黑的   几个月没有克住阵风，结果阵风马上大卖！
达索真该感谢黑的    几个月，让它喘口气，要不然就只有法国每年4架的订单而已。