管理费都得加6%的消费税

darienong

消费税来咯，连每个月的管理费都得加6%的消费税。虽然说现在政府还在考虑当中，但是，12月31日的注册截至日期渐进还没有传来好消息，看来凶多吉少了。。。


GST on high-rises will hit one million in Penang
December 6th, 2014 1 comment

Property prices in Seberang Perai are still within an affordable range of between RM250,000 and RM500,000 for double-storey terrace homes.
Over a million residents here will be affected if the goods and services tax (GST) is imposed on management fees for apartments and condominiums, said Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng.

He said all management and maintenance fees for buildings with strata titles, including low- and low-medium cost flats, will rise by 6 per cent if the consumption tax is imposed.

Lim said there are a total 235,932 stratified units in Penang and at five people per household, this translates to more than one million people living in these units.

“This works up to almost 60 per cent of the population of Penang will be affected by this,” he said in a press conference at his office today.

He reminded Putrajaya that most people buy flats, especially low- and low-medium cost units, because they could not afford landed properties.

Lim said the group will be further penalised over those living on landed properties who need not pay such fees.

“The government should exempt GST on management fees of stratified developments,” he said, saying his administration will appeal to Putrajaya for the exemption.

Penang Real Estate and Housing Developers’ Association (Rehda) chairman Datuk Jerry Chan said the maintenance and management fees collected by management corporations of stratified properties were meant to pay for upkeep of the properties and not for profit.

He also noted that such joint-management bodies already faced difficulty in collections and arrears.

“This will only put a heavier strain on the management funds that are used mainly for maintenance of common property,” Chan said.

Late last month, several real estate related non-governmental organisations (NGOS), submitted a petition to the prime minister for management corporations of stratified developments to be exempted from GST.

Deputy Finance Minister Datuk Chua Tee Yong on Wednesday said the federal government is considering the requests.

wooyen

管理费收不收消费税应该也差不了多少
不收的话,管理层就成了消费者,也一样要吸收來自电费,水费,保安费,清洁费,电梯維修费,管理公司费....等等的消费税
也需涨管理费來维持运作

wooyen

延伸问题
如果要收的话,拖欠管理费的居民们也需管理层先垫付消费税,那管理层的现金流岂不枯竭鸟

darienong

wooyen 发表于 9-12-2014 03:37 PM
管理费收不收消费税应该也差不了多少
不收的话,管理层就成了消费者,也一样要吸收來自电费,水费,保安费,清 ...

还是您对消费税了解，逃得过初一躲不过十五！如果可以不注册的话，也许是要吸收的消费税比较少罢了。毕竟管理层的所有开销不是100%有征收消费税的。还有就是可以避免一些消费税造成的现金流问题。。比如开了单征收管理费，住户还没缴交管理费前管理层就得垫付那6%的税给政府了。。

myeong86

但是如果政府可以归类为zero rate or out of scope,那管理层就可以claim input tax了。。。
毕竟管理费不能算是business purpose,那为啥不可以是out of scope?

vincentsieng

myeong86 发表于 9-12-2014 10:05 PM
但是如果政府可以归类为zero rate or out of scope,那管理层就可以claim input tax了。。。
毕竟管理费不能 ...

那就要靠某些人去向政府争取了，但是前提是政府现在超穷的。。。。

wooyen

vincentsieng 发表于 9-12-2014 10:14 PM
那就要靠某些人去向政府争取了，但是前提是政府现在超穷的。。。。

认同。。。什么都豁免,还收GST干嘛?(正腐立场)

darienong

myeong86 发表于 9-12-2014 10:05 PM
但是如果政府可以归类为zero rate or out of scope,那管理层就可以claim input tax了。。。
毕竟管理费不能 ...

假如政府肯Zero rate管理费，政府就亏大了，变成公寓管理层很多费用有得claim Input Tax  又不必记算 OutPut Tax，每个消费税结算基本上就是退税的情况，政府那吃进口的肥肉又要吐出来；我个人认为是不太可能啦，把管理费争取为Out of scope也许还有一些希望。。

storm0227

wooyen 发表于 9-12-2014 10:20 PM
认同。。。什么都豁免,还收GST干嘛?(正腐立场)

一场大龙凤下来，才说明年只会增加19亿税收

aidj

wooyen 发表于 9-12-2014 03:44 PM
延伸问题
如果要收的话,拖欠管理费的居民们也需管理层先垫付消费税,那管理层的现金流岂不枯竭鸟:fun ...

请 精明 licensed accountant 帮 JMB 解决问题咯。那天在书店，有位就大厅广众 教数
只差没放上网

wooyen

aidj 发表于 13-12-2014 02:48 PM
请 精明 licensed accountant 帮 JMB 解决问题咯。那天在书店，有位就大厅广众 教数
只差没放上网

一切还沒定案
欲知后事如何
请密切留意正腐公佈

DrEaM^mAkEr

应该不会吧。。。希望不会involve GST on maintenance fee

danieltang3121

最有效的不是那个6%gst 管理费，而是确保每位屋主都有交管理费。
现在的人买屋不给管理费，一直出租然后收租金而已。他们不卖只是出租就没事。
有些有钱人买了也不租出去，空着7-8年不管。。