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民意调查:相比于日本,中国人更不喜欢韩国

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发表于 31-12-2013 10:46 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Photo: A South Korean protester rips up a Chinese flag

图片:一个韩国抗议者撕毁一面中国国旗

The Chosun Ilbo reports that South Korea has outranked Japan as China’s least favorite neighboring country:

朝鲜日报报道韩国超过日本成为了中国最不喜欢的国家

In the survey of 12,000 Chinese people over the past four months by the International Herald Leader, a newspaper published by China’s official Xinhua News Agency, 40.1 percent of respondents said they dislike South Korea the most. Japan came in second place with 30.2 percent of the vote. The most-liked neighbor was Pakistan with 13.2 percent followed by Russia and Japan, the newspaper said.

在一个由国际先驱报进行的在过去四个月对12000名中国人的调查中,据中国官方媒体新华社的一份报道称,报导中40.1%的被调查者说韩国最讨厌了。日本因30.2%的讨厌数位居第二。据这份报道说,最喜欢的邻国是巴基斯坦,有13.2%的票数,位居俄罗斯和日本之前。

(注:文章发布时间是数年前)


Jeff • 4 years ago
Aha, this is funny. Maybe the Chinese are finally waking up to the fact that Koreans are really obnoxiously insecure about their country, being sandwiched between China and Japan for all of its history. I just love it when the Koreans boast that their country is actually "responsible" for the Chinese civilization and blah blah blah, and how the Koreans are the tallest East Asians which they take as the proof their their superiority. Bombast, chest-thumping, idle boasts, and sheer in-your-face attitude tend to get on people's nerves. If I were the Koreans, I'd be more careful, since there is no ocean between China and Korea. Chihuahuas love to bark, don't they.

啊,这很好玩。或许中国人现在终于意识到韩国人是多么的没有安全感。整个韩国历史就是夹在中日之间的三明治史。当韩国人吹嘘中国文明得益于他们国家时,我真是笑死了。韩国人还说自己是东亚人中最高的,以此证明自己优越性。夸大的言辞,空头许诺,自夸,以及挑衅的态度都会令人不安。如果我是韩国人,我会谨慎一点,因为中韩距离毕竟不遥远。吉娃娃犬都很喜欢叫,不是吗?

Jeff • 4 years ago
Oh, one more thing. My Chinese friends tell me that they mostly don't like Korean men. The reason? Well, they are wife-beaters, which the Chinese look down upon as the lowest form of cowardice.

还有一件事情。我的中国朋友对我说他们不是很喜欢韩国人。原因?因为韩国人打妻子,中国人认为这是最懦弱的行为。

BurtonM Jeff • a year ago −
What? ive lived in china and korea and chinese are much more violent to family members. Theres also a lot more child abuse in china.

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啥?我在中国和韩国住过,中国人更家暴。中国虐待儿童的例子也更多。

Madhyam • 5 years ago −
I have a Korean friend. She said that the only solid reason why South Korea is so messed up is:
1. Kim Gu (the Korean "Gandhi" in politics) was assassinated by a Korean associated with American government.
2. Rhee Syngmang became a president for opening ground for pro-American dictatorship that was never democratic for decades.
I can understand why South Koreans don't even like America in the first place.
Consider that the whole "protest culture" in today's South Korea is stemmed from anti-American thoughts, not anti-Japan.

我有韩国朋友,她认为韩国这么混乱 的真正原因在于:
1.金九(韩国政治上的“甘地”)被与美国政府有关系的韩国人刺杀
2.韩国第一任总统李承晚是倾向于美国的独裁政府,其统治期间没有民主可言。
所以我可以理解韩国人为什么不喜欢美国。
韩国如今的“抗议文化”起源于反美思潮,而不是起源于反日思潮。

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raine • 5 years ago −
wow 12,000 chinese people thats a small percentage of the chinese population and add to that 40.1% of that 12,000 people dislike Korean. What so 40.1% of the 12,000 people represent the whole of the chinese population. ¬¬ what a great way to headline this poll making the chinese look bad.

哇塞, 才12000个中国人,这只是很小人口比例。 再看看这个结论“40.1%的中国人不喜欢韩国人”,这样就能代表整个中国群体 ¬¬ 绝对的标题党,目的就是为了让中国人出丑吧

helical raine • 5 years ago −
Uh, statistics doesn't work like that.
If your sample size is 12000 out of 1.3 billion, then your margin of error is 0.89% with a 95% confidence level.
That means, if this same survey was done 100 times, 95 times out of that, the results are going to fall approximately between 41.0% and 39.2%.

(回楼上)
呃,从统计学的角度上来看不是这样哦
如果你从1.3亿人口里取12000个样本, 那你的误差即为 0.89% 以及95%的可信度。 这就意味着,你这个调查如果执行100次,其中有95次的结果都会在41% 到 39.2%之间。

helical • 5 years ago −
South Korea's failing is that they decided to deal with China in the same way as they've been doing with Japan.
Browbeating-chest-pounding-flag-burning/eating-bombastic rhetoric only keeps on working (or maybe I should say does not significantly affect negatively) when it's used against a mostly apathetic populace like the Japanese.

韩国的错误就在于他们打算用同样的方法跟中国交往,就像他们跟日本一样。
咄咄逼人的态度,焚烧国旗,断指以及夸张的修辞都会继续下去 (或者有可能这个不会造成负面的影响), 就像他们对抗精神萎靡的日本群众一样。

Jordan • 5 years ago
How the hell could you dislike South Korea and like Pakistan? East Asia: it boggles the mind.

你们怎么会去一方面讨厌韩国,一方面又喜欢巴基斯坦?东亚真是令人惊奇的地方。

Tomo Huang Jordan • 3 years ago −
South Korea has many things to dislike about them... Plus China is rising in power fast and to them, South Korea are just 2nd class people who are obsessed with surgery

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中国有很多东西可以令韩国人不喜欢,再加上中国是冉冉升起的新力量,对于中国人来说,韩国人只是痴迷整容的下等人类。

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LadyZ Tomo Huang • a year ago −
You sound like a very ignorant chinese man when it is proven that: "China ranks third in the world behind the United States and Brazil for the number of plastic surgeries performed, according to industry officials." Get a life.

(回楼上)
看来你是个无知的中国人,事实证明:“根据整容行业官方报道,中国已继美国和巴西后成为全球第三整容大国。” 醒醒吧!

kimchee • 5 years ago −
i am an overseas korean residing somewhere in southeast asia and among the south koreans, the japanese and the chinese I dislike chinese the most, except for my chinese friends. Why? Because chinese who go and stay here are filthy, smell strange and act like they are mildly retarded. They kiss the asses of the locals and steal their technology. Not stereotyping because i know there are nice chinese out there but hate them in general.
The japanese are ok. Very professional and friendly. except for the ones who slaughtered countless non-japanese asians.

我是生活在东南亚地区的韩国人,中国人和日本人相比,我最讨厌中国人,除了我的中国朋友以外。知道为什么吗?因为来这的中国人都很恶心,散发着一股怪味,看起来像脑残。他们喜欢跟当地人套近乎,偷学他们的技术。当然不是所有中国人都这样,因为我认识一些不错的中国人,但总体来说我还是讨厌他们。
不算上屠杀其他亚洲人这一点的话,日本人还OK,他们很敬业也很友好。

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 楼主| 发表于 31-12-2013 10:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
parkmount kimchee • 5 years ago
This is a typical smart asx Korean behavior in the above comment. They have no originality and always practice what they call "uriginal bench-marking" (a.k.a. copy-cat). They are singlehandedly most hated people in Asia, possibly in the world as well.

(回楼上)
楼上就是典型的韩国人。韩国人没什么原创性,喜欢“人云亦云” (就是山寨的意思)。他们仅仅只是讨厌其他亚洲人,可能除了他们自己,讨厌地球上所有人。

Truth parkmount • a year ago −
I'm in full agreement. Most Chinese and Japanese hate them for a very good reason. Just the men though. It's because they're subhuman garbage and not much better than plankton. The women are alright. I've screwed many and they always tell me how the men can't measure up.

(回楼上)
完全同意楼上的。中国人和日本人讨厌他们都是有理由的。他们就是这种人。韩国人根本就是人类的垃圾,连浮游生物都不如。韩国女人还不错,我干过不少,她们都说比跟韩国男人做爽多了。

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folosa • 5 years ago −
I meant to say slightly over 50% of Britons look at US in a negative way and from there it goes down hill. With a new president this could ofcource change.
"Listen every society has it’s good and its bad. To say a whole nation of people are good or bad is pure ignorance."
Some countries have more idiots than others though. A key barometer for me is democracy. If you have an idiot running a country chances are high that there are lots of idiots in that country. In CHina it is hard to tell because there is no freedom of speech and democracy. The people are oppressed. SInce the people are oppressed by the government it is in the interest of the government that the people use their energy and anger on someone else than their own government.

我本来想说,几乎超过一半的英国人是以一种消极的方式看待美国的,并且情况越来越糟。当然随着新总统的上任这种情况可能会改善。
“听着,每个社会都有好的一面和坏的一面。单独评论一个国家的子民是好是坏根本就是无知的行为。”
然而有些国家的白痴的确比其他国家更多。对我来说判断的标准就是这个国家是否够民主。如果连治国的领导人都缺乏智慧的话,那么自然而然那个国家的白痴就会相对多一些。中国的情况有些难讲,因为中国人根本没有言论自由和民主政治可言。由于是政府在压迫人民,所以如果人民把愤怒和能量发泄在其他人身上的话,这对政府来说是有好处的。

yoyo • 3 days ago
wow people need to grow up. Chinese, Koreans, Japanese... They all need to get the hell out of where they're from and explore the world a little bit. People are all the same...

哎大家都成熟一点。中国人,韩国人,日本人。。。他们都应该跳出自己的小世界看看外面的大世界。大家都半斤八两。。。。

Madhyam • 5 years ago
Another thing came into my mind: China vs. Japan vs. Korea antagonism has many benefits for the current world power, America. Lack of harmony in some regions in the world brings the current world power's presence important.

我想起另外一件事:中国日本韩国相互敌对的话,真是对当前强国----美国好处多多呀。某些地区的不和谐反而增加霸权强国的存在感耶。

Mister M • 5 years ago
Koreans and Japanese are nice people and have many similarities, and I don't think that both really hate each other because both love to share their stuff togueter, but I cannot tell about Chinese because they don't have any notion of what is Japan or Korea in reality. That is so true that they tell always the same stupid thing over and over again. you can tell this difference here in Japan.
Even though Koreans are not treated so fairly in Japan and they hate the governments' decision many times, they use their brain better than Chinese in a way that they will not launch a rock or eggs to a Japanese citizen who do not have anything to do with politician's poor decision. Chinese come to Japan and they act like they are in their country and show no respect to Japanese culture. Besides that seems to not care about Japanese laws and their citizens. I personally would rather having more Koreans coming to Japan and learn how Japanese are nice and kind, and not the way how Korean and chinese media tell that is based on negative thing about Japan.

韩国人和日本人都不错,他们也有很多相似之处,我觉得他们其实并不是真得讨厌彼此,因为他们常常分享资源,但是我拿不准中国人,因为中国人压根就对现实中的韩国和日本没啥概念。中国人总是炒冷饭,日本人就不一样了。
即使韩国人常常在日本受到不公正待遇,也很讨厌日本政府的决策,但他们还是动脑子想办法,总比中国人向无辜的日本市民丢石子砸鸡蛋强,再说日本市民跟政府决策没啥关系。中国人在日本就像在自己的地盘一样,完全无视日本本土文化。除此之外,中国人也无视日本法律法规,连日本市民也不放在眼里。我个人希望多一些韩国人亲自来日本,了解一下亲切友好的日本人,希望大家不会受到韩国和中国媒体的误导,只知道日本负面的消息。
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 楼主| 发表于 31-12-2013 10:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
ronin • 5 years ago
i am an american, and i was wondering if anyone could tell me which two of the three cultures are most similar in general? chinese/japanese? korean/japanese? korean/chinese? i would really like to know, and why if possible.

我是美国人,我很好奇谁可以告诉我一般来说,在这三个文明中那两个特别相似?中国/日本?韩国/日本?韩国/中国?我真的很想知道这是为什么如果可能的话?

helical ronin • 5 years ago −
It's all a matter of perspective and what aspect of "culture" you're talking about.
Japan and Korea are questionably successful modern capitalist and (supposedly) democratic "western" societies, meaning many parallels in everyday sensibilities in economy and human rights. The language syntax is strikingly similar, and there are some parallels in vocabulary too. Japan annexed Korea for a couple decades in the last century so and may have influenced Korean culture during that time. They can also be contrasted with China, a nuclear power with regional hegemonic ambitions.
China and Korea were once master and vassal state and connected by land until about a century ago. Their behavior shares a lot of patterns from Japan's perspective, including placing an inordinate value on history, as well as a culture that is very lax on copying and pirating the work of others. They also seem to be a more passionate group of people than Japan. As much as they hate each other, they seem to put up an alliance of convenience when bashing on Japan.
China and Japan were distant master and vassal a millennia and a half ago and still are regional rivals. Japan borrowed a lot of advanced cultural aspects like Buddhism and Kanji from China and used it as a springboard for their own development. They say in those days, the Japanese used to be able to communicate with the Chinese using written dialogue even if the spoken language was completely different.

这是(看问题)角度的问题,你想了解“文化”哪方面呢
日本和韩国成功实现的资本化和(按照推测)民主化是不可靠的。“西方”社会,意味着在日常情感及经济和人权在很多方面是相似你的。语言语法严格来说是相似的,还有些词汇也有相似之处,在上个世纪韩国附属于日本20年,因此在此期间日本文化影响到韩国,他们因此与中国形成对比,核弹与地区霸权野心
中国和韩国曾经是主人和附庸国的关系,在陆地上相连的,直到大约一个世纪以前。从日本的视角看,他们的很多行为方式是相通的,比如他们都在历史里灌输过分和反常的价值观,以及一种随心所以山寨和剽窃别人劳动成果的文化,他们貌似也是一群比日本人更有激情的群体。他们很讨厌对方,但是在谈到日本的时候就成了同盟。
中国和日本在一千五百年前是比较疏远的君臣关系,且一直以来都是区域竞争对手。日本从中国借走了很多先进的文化如佛教,汉字。并以此为跳板来发展自己。他他们说,在那个时期里,就算两国语言不通,也一样可以用书写对话来交流

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lauren ronin • 3 years ago
Chinese and Japanese are the most similar because the Japanese and Chinese characters are almost the same, because the japanese copied the Chinese writing style. Also japanese and chinese sound the most similar then korean/chinese and korean/japanese.

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中国人和日本人最像因为日本文字和中国文字几乎一样,因为日本人复制了中国人的文字体系。同样,日语和中文比起韩语/中文和韩语/日语听起来最相像。

BurtonM lauren • a year ago −
wow. that is completely wrong. Japanese and koreans are far far more similar in language food culture and DNA than chinese.

(回楼上)
哇,完全错误。比起中国人,日本人和韩国人在语言食物文化和DNA方面更相像。
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 楼主| 发表于 31-12-2013 10:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
中国和韩国曾经是主人和附庸国的关系,在陆地上相连的,直到大约一个世纪以前。从日本的视角看,他们的很多行为方式是相通的,比如他们都在历史里灌输过分和反常的价值观,以及一种随心所以山寨和剽窃别人劳动成果的文化,他们貌似也是一群比日本人更有激情的群体。他们很讨厌对方,但是在谈到日本的时候就成了同盟。
中国和日本在一千五百年前是比较疏远的君臣关系,且一直以来都是区域竞争对手。日本从中国借走了很多先进的文化如佛教,汉字。并以此为跳板来发展自己。他他们说,在那个时期里,就算两国语言不通,也一样可以用书写对话来交流
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怎么说中韩的时候是“山寨和剽窃”,然后到日本就成了“借”?
额。。。偷书不算偷~
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 楼主| 发表于 31-12-2013 10:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
日本人的历史记忆力不超过30年,连它们当年山寨大国起家的历史都忘了一干二净,我们还指望他们能记得二战罪行?
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 楼主| 发表于 31-12-2013 10:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
事实证明,中国人讨厌日本,日本人讨厌中国,而两国最讨厌的都是韩国,原因简单,一个奴隶2个世纪的国家,整天在那吹,谁都觉得恶心。我相信韩国之所以这么讨厌,原因是他们蛊惑3线城市的农村地区人都有一套,甚至让国内3线城市,甚至认为韩国有科技?本身就是山寨,只因跟在老美下不被西方丑化,就连你棒子也配说我国山寨吗?最恶心的还是那一点。村炮的盲目以及韩国男人公认的土不上档次的形象。就好像永远不懂时尚的装潮人士在农村作秀。

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发表于 31-12-2013 10:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
真是不可思议
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 楼主| 发表于 31-12-2013 11:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
日语:虽然发音不同于汉语但文字里充斥着大量汉字;韩语:虽然文字不同于汉语但不少韩语的发音表意和汉语一模一样。

日本人和韩国人要是不会汉语都看不懂自己国家的历史古籍;韩国的法律至今还需要借助汉语才能精确的表意。

韩日以前天天跪舔中国,巴不得自己变成中国人;日韩现在找到了新主人就开始疯咬老主人



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发表于 31-12-2013 11:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
我喜欢韩国妹
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发表于 31-12-2013 11:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
谢谢分享   
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发表于 1-1-2014 03:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
韓國偶像很娘炮
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发表于 1-1-2014 05:08 AM | 显示全部楼层
playgame 发表于 31-12-2013 11:11 PM
日语:虽然发音不同于汉语但文字里充斥着大量汉字;韩语:虽然文字不同于汉语但不少韩语的发音表意和汉语一 ...

有些亚洲人的狗奴才基因完全是处于激活状态,明明被老美哪派耍的团团转还是那么的忠犬八公。
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发表于 1-1-2014 05:26 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
看来lz虽然是中国人(应该吧,感觉上缺乏从礼仪之邦出来的风范)但完全不明白"事实证明"和"最"的意思啊。。
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 楼主| 发表于 1-1-2014 10:57 AM | 显示全部楼层
hypersong 发表于 1-1-2014 05:26 AM
看来lz虽然是中国人(应该吧,感觉上缺乏从礼仪之邦出来的风范)但完全不明白"事实证明"和"最"的意思啊 ...

你没有任何底气的浓浓的优越感从何来?难怪自称有素质讲礼仪的马华被马来人当羔羊宰




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发表于 1-1-2014 11:03 AM | 显示全部楼层
可是我看到很多中国年轻人都很哈韩。。韩剧和韩歌在中国超流行啊
很多出名的韩国组合都有中国人在,如super junior, EXO,FX,ms A,
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 楼主| 发表于 1-1-2014 11:18 AM | 显示全部楼层
天崖阁 发表于 1-1-2014 11:03 AM
可是我看到很多中国年轻人都很哈韩。。韩剧和韩歌在中国超流行啊
很多出名的韩国组合都有中国人在 ...

”的在14亿中国人中占多少?现在可是有很多年少无知时候“哈韩日”的长大成熟后完全看不起当今世界硕果仅存的2大殖民地;日本本国的民航客机起飞都需要美军的点头;韩国至今维护国家安全的军队的战时指挥权还握在美国人手里。

更不要说日韩有大量的美军驻扎美其名曰:是保护日韩拥有过亿人口世界第三大经济体日本和拥有近5千万人口的世界第15大经济体的韩国需要美国的保护实质是占领日韩;这些驻日韩的美军并非是免费的吆;日韩每年要向美国爸爸上缴数百亿美元的保护费吆
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发表于 1-1-2014 11:23 AM | 显示全部楼层
playgame 发表于 1-1-2014 11:18 AM
“哈”的在14亿中国人中占多少?现在可是有很多年少无知时候“哈韩日”的长大成熟后完全看不起当今世界硕 ...

请问这两个字怎样读?paiseh..我在认真看你写的,可是句子有点深
1)吆
2)缴
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发表于 1-1-2014 11:23 AM | 显示全部楼层
原来阿中不喜欢阿韩
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 楼主| 发表于 1-1-2014 11:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
天崖阁 发表于 1-1-2014 11:23 AM
请问这两个字怎样读?paiseh..我在认真看你写的,可是句子有点深
1)吆
2)缴

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发表于 1-1-2014 11:29 AM | 显示全部楼层
playgame 发表于 1-1-2014 11:26 AM
去查字典

看来google search比较快
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