我爸得了末期癌症...(我爸已到了极乐世界)

jessicachong530

你的父亲怎样啦。
还好吧， 希望他能抗胜癌魔。 加油加油。

我想应先试西药，再用中药来补身。
但要问医生意见o

我也有听说过＂黑面将军＂。 平时也可以当凉水来喝。


你要加油
祝你爸爸早日康复

phangchiilin

原帖由 holly_niuniu 于 15-10-2007 17:03 发表
可不可告诉我什么是南非树和黑面将军？我想是不是对爸爸的病有帮助。多谢了！

南非树和黑面将军都是一种树叶,它的味道非常的苦.它拥有排毒的作用.你爸也患上癌症吗?

phangchiilin

原帖由 khaw_lao 于 15-10-2007 18:34 发表
楼主，目前你父亲的状况如何？？？在接受什么治疗和饮用什么？？？

祝你父亲早日康复。。。

今天我父亲打了第5枝的化疗针了.前几天可能应化疗的作用有点呕吐.最近我给他喝'元舵'(不知道是不是这样写)叶的茶.

phangchiilin

原帖由 kyo929 于 16-10-2007 13:34 发表
楼主住哪里呢？想介绍你去johor的BATU PAHAT看中医呢

本人住在大山脚.JB的中医我有听说过,可以打电话跟他说病况,然后他会寄那些药来给你,然后你才寄回钱给他.你那位中医也是不是这样的?

holly_niuniu

我老爸也是癌症的末期，不能开刀的了。只能用化疗。目前他已打完那些疗程。化疗其间，医生给的药性特别的强。对于病人的身体伤害很大，免疫能力特别的弱。这其间，医生都不建议我们给爸爸中药进补。他说只要爸爸能吃的下家常便饭，就好了。而且吃药对我们的肝和肾都有一定的影响，对于这方面有问题的人就别乱吃药。否则试得其反。我知道你现在的心境，凡是有一线新机为何不放胆去搏斗，对不对？可是不要因为我们的无知而害了爸爸。劝你尽量去找医生谈谈，了解了解一下。

holly_niuniu

医生必须完全了解病人的状况才可下药。一种病症可以因为很多原因而引起的。除非医生对这一个癌症病人非常的了解而且有很详细的资料，否则千万别乱买药给这一类的病人吃。而且你也不晓得是不是那一间店的供应经过卫生局的批准。再说你爸爸每几次去化疗之前，主治医生一定会再次检查他的身体状况，比如验血，X－RAY，CT－SCAN之类的，作为他下一次为你父亲下药剂量的参考，是不是他用的药对病人有效。
切记，每个人的体质不同，对同一种药物的反应都不一样。如果一定要中西药一起吃，劝你先去问问你爸爸的医生怎么说。

phangchiilin

原帖由 holly_niuniu 于 18-10-2007 08:53 发表
我老爸也是癌症的末期，不能开刀的了。只能用化疗。目前他已打完那些疗程。化疗其间，医生给的药性特别的强。对于病人的身体伤害很大，免疫能力特别的弱。这其间，医生都不建议我们给爸爸中药进补。他说只要爸爸 ...

那你爸现在的情况怎样了?他的癌细胞受到控制了吗?那天报告出来,那些药物对我爸的癌细胞无效.医生说他会加强一些药物,不过这个药物会比较贵.医生也坦白的告诉我爸的情况不是很乐观.可能只有两个月而已.这个消息我们没有跟我妈说.我不知道药如何开口,又怕我妈过后会每天提心调胆的过日子.你爸是在那间医院做化疗?你爸得的是那一类癌症?

holly_niuniu

很抱歉听到你这一则消息。我爸的病情暂时受到控制。上次他打的药也很贵，一支要好几千块。还好之前他有买保险，可以顶一顶。你爸爸本身的健康如何？一定要意志力坚强，家里的支持和鼓励很重要。还有你们必须体谅你爸爸，因为chemo的负作用会让他很不舒服。他的情绪很容易受影响。记得劝他多和水。

phangchiilin

其实现在我也烦恼着那些医药费,接下来的每一次疗程差不多要三千多块.一个月就要花了正十几千.你爸的疗程总共花了多少钱?

rioj

有没有买保险    ？

jericho1a1

我也不知道要这么样帮忙！但是我希望你的爸爸早日康复。

holly_niuniu

我爸爸花了差不多也是这样的数额。可是，他的疗程只是每三个星期打一次。他总共打了六只，每次将近RM６０００（包括医生的费用），但有时低一些些，价格是依据药物的分量成正比的。坦白说是贵的，可是没办法因为要去政府医yan的话，要等上好几个月。治疗被耽搁了。

sambora

原帖由 phangchiilin 于 14-9-2007 09:21 AM 发表
我爸爸得了末期胰脏癌,而且已散跨到肝脏了.请问大家有何治疗的秘方?对于中药和化疗那个会比较好?

听说注射吗非会好

-hope-

原帖由 sambora 于 23-10-2007 03:22 PM 发表

听说注射吗非会好

这个只能控制身体的疼痛, 尽量减轻末期病患者的痛苦.

FILA_2003

原帖由 dark_elvin 于 14-9-2007 09:59 AM 发表
西医化疗和中医草药都做吧，到了末期胰脏癌不能再考虑太多了，什么都应该尝试。

不一定西医化疗没效，中药就不可以的。曾经有人被西医断定没有的医，可是后来尝试中药好了。

中药里以草药“黑面将军”抗癌 ...

呵呵，这些我公公都已经试过了都没用，还试过了民间医疗法好像用指甲加点草药，壁虎包什么叶子之类的。。。。。还吃了和擦了几瓶灵芝。。。到最后还是过不料！！！！


我知道他做电疗时很辛苦又不能喝水。。。。


如果应该试的都试过了就不必强求。。。他喜欢吃什么就让他吃不用解口了，要去那里就带他去。。。让他好好享受剩下的日子

5050

除了中医和西医双管齐下之外，食料也是很重要的一环！一定要改变病患的生活、饮食方式，比方早睡早起、尽量作运动（气功、瑜伽之类的）、多吃五谷和蔬果（有条件的就吃有机的）改善体质等等都有机会救回一条人命的！

家人的支持、病人的斗志都很重要！我的外公去年得了末期肺癌，我有心要帮助他（一个人的能以有限），外公他老人家也很有斗志；偏偏跟外公一起住的婶婶就不断灌输我的外婆、舅舅、我弟妹和母亲还有其他亲戚朋友得了癌症就只有死路一条。。。。后来我的外公就因为得不到大家的支持与世长辞了。

同时我的二叔公也得了末期大肠癌，他很有斗志也相信食疗。幸运的他得到家人的支持，以两年的时间与癌症对抗！医生也说他没得救了！可是我的二叔公就是很有福气！他的大肠癌今年六月已经完全康复了！

楼主，千万不要灰心，也不要气馁！加油哦！你的爸爸一定可以战胜癌症的！

holly_niuniu

楼主，有一些想在此分享。。。版主请多多包涵，因为想在第一时间让每个人知道这个消息，没来得及翻译：
News from John Hopkins


AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY (TRY THE KEY WORD) AND ELIMINATE  CANCER, JOHN HOPKINS IS FINALLY  STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY .

Cancer Update from John Hopkins:

1. Every person has cancer cells in the body.These cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests until they have multiplied to a few billion. When doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their
bodies after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells because they have not reached the detectable size.

2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person's lifetime.

3. When the person's immune system is strong the cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from multiplying and forming tumors.

4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These could be due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle factors.

5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet and including supplements will strengthen the  immune system.

6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow, gastro-intestinal tract etc, and can cause organ damage, like liver,kidneys, heart, lungs etc.

7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns, scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.

8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor destruction.

9. When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb to various kinds of infections and complications.

10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become resistant and difficult to destroy.   Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread to other sites.

11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it needs to multiply.


CANCER CELLS FEED ON:

a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder.
By cutting off sugar it cuts off one important food supply to the cancer cells. Sugar substitutes like Nutrasweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka honey or molasses but only in very small amounts. Table salt has
a chemical added to make it white in colour. Better alternative is Bragg's aminos or sea salt.

b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the
gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on mucus .   By cutting off milk and substituting with unsweetened soya milk cancer cells are being starved.

c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment.
A meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful,especially to people
with cancer.

d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment.
About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells.
To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts)  and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).

e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer-fighting properties.
Water- best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.

12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines become putrified and leads to more toxic buildup.

13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.

14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6, Flor
ssence,Essiac,anti-oxidants, vitamins,minerals, EFAs etc.) to enable the body's own killer cells to destroy cancer cells.
Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body's normal method of disposing of damaged,unwanted, or unneeded cells.

15. Cancer is a disease of the mind,body, and spirit. A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor.
Anger, un forgiveness and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.

16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.


PLEASE READ ON

1. No plastic containers in micro.
2. No water bottles in freezer.
3. No plastic wrap in microwave.

Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in its newsletters. This information is being circulated at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well. Dioxin chemicals causes cancer,especially breast cancer.  Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plastic bottles with water  in them as this
releases dioxins from the plastic. Recently, Dr. Edward Fujimoto,Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital was on a TV program to explain this health hazard. He talked about dioxins and how bad they are for us.
He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers. This especially applies to foods that contain fat. He said that
the  combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body.
Instead, he recommends using glass, such as CorningWare, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food.
You get the same results, only without the dioxin. So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc.,  should be removed from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn't bad but you don't know
what is  in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware,etc. He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons.
Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked,the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic
wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead.

daimon

原帖由 5050 于 24-10-2007 11:46 PM 发表
除了中医和西医双管齐下之外，食料也是很重要的一环！一定要改变病患的生活、饮食方式，比方早睡早起、尽量作运动（气功、瑜伽之类的）、多吃五谷和蔬果（有条件的就吃有机的）改善体质等等都有机会救回一条人命 ...

我也曾经看报纸，有个女人她有末期癌症，丈夫每天把不同的水果和蔬菜打成JUICE给她喝，结果好了。。。

Summer_kaze

對癌症真的一知半解﹐更不知胰脏癌是什麼﹐實在幫不了什麼忙。
抽點時間帶你爸到公園吸新鮮空氣﹐因為癌細胞怕氧氣。
聽說葡萄籽不錯﹐能夠抗氧化。(可是不懂是不是對症下藥)

看得出樓主很孝順﹐你爸會早日康复的﹗不用擔心﹗  

yuyun

祝福搂主

给一个开心的环境
不要压力

找出病因
对症下药（例如 为何得到那个病。。那就别重复那个动作了）

做少许运动~~

每天拍手...
尝试下。。。

听说可以减少癌细胞~~